The ground suddenly falls away from beneath Estwald and he goes tumbling into a pit. You watch as he is skewered upon some spikes.
Estwald HIT-THE-PIT-DECAP-OR-CHEST-THEM
ESTWALD-HAS-HIT-YOUR-PIT-ENGAGE-THEM-AND-DECAP-THE-BASTARD
Estwald's eyes close suddenly as he falls asleep.
***GOOD-NIGHT-IRENE***
Estwald wakes up with a gasp of pain.

You say, "Ok now ya definately are."

You hear through a bloodhound's ears: Ildaudid says, "Ok now ya definately are."

Estwald takes a drink from a bloodstone vial.

Estwald takes a drink from a bloodstone vial.

Estwald empties out a bloodstone vial into his mouth.

In a swift, fluid motion, Estwald springs up from his hands to land crouched on his feet.


You hear through a bloodhound's ears: Estwald says, "Wow."

You say, "Liked the sleepy?"

You hear through a bloodhound's ears: Ildaudid says, "Liked the sleepy?"

Estwald says, "34.671 - 36.781."

You hear through a bloodhound's ears: Estwald says, "34.671 - 36.781." <---------- 2.11 seconds

You say, "Hehe."

You hear through a bloodhound's ears: Ildaudid says, "Hehe."

You carefully dismantle the trap.

You have recovered balance on all limbs.

Estwald says, "Oh one sec."
You hear through a bloodhound's ears: Estwald says, "Oh one sec."

Estwald says, "Let me get you the snake pit time, I figured it out."
You hear through a bloodhound's ears: Estwald says, "Let me get you the snake pit time, I figured it out."

(The Kalas Legacy): You say, "Ok jot this down, with a morphite morphite mactan mactan mactan spike pit 34.671 - 36.781 and they went to sleep, was 2 seconds."

You say, "Ok."
You hear through a bloodhound's ears: Ildaudid says, "Ok."

(The Kalas Legacy): Malarious (from the Astral Plane) says, "For bard?"

(The Kalas Legacy): You say, "Yes."

(The Kalas Legacy): You say, "Need to test on a non bard in a min."

(The Kalas Legacy): You say, "Most likely you."

(The Kalas Legacy): You say, "Do not have metawake on though when we do it."

Estwald says, "38.359 - 40.671." <----------------- 2.32 seconds
You hear through a bloodhound's ears: Estwald says, "38.359 - 40.671."

Estwald nods his head emphatically.

You say, "Ok."
You hear through a bloodhound's ears: Ildaudid says, "Ok."

Estwald says, "Alright."
You hear through a bloodhound's ears: Estwald says, "Alright."

Estwald waves goodbye.
6071h, 2412m, 3869e, 10p, 21980en, 16409w elrxk<>-say see ya

You say, "See ya."

This is by design. Bards have the worst armor, almost no self-curing abilities, and no resistance defenses. They also have very little offense. In exchange, they are remarkably slippery, which allows them to avoid a handful of key attacks almost entirely, including pits, most forms of webbing (including a very high druidry attack), a certain amount of deep wounds, etc. The only way you can justify removing that slipperiness is by giving them the other defensive things they're lacking, and thus making them too much like the other classes.

The whole point of bards is that they can accompany allies into danger while providing those allies with buffs, so their abilities to elude some of that danger are key, and balanced by their own general lack of offensive abilities. (Bards can do some good offense in a team sometimes, but usually their offense serves best to aid allies, meaning they are unlikely to ever get the kill.)

It's all very well designed and would be nicely balanced, if only those buffs were useful enough to be worth the trouble (not to mention the deafness and captive audience overhead). Plus there's one other flaw: the time it takes to get a song ready makes bards far more useful in offense (raiding) than defense, since you can take the time to ready the song and captivate the audience before starting a raid, but no one ever has time to wait for that when defending against a raid.

Umm trackers get no resistance defences and no self curing abilities either.

Ildaudid, it does not take that long to climb out of a pit for any class. If a person is on the ball, he/she can climb out of a pit before I can get a second attack in using a katana. Therefore I use certain afflictions that can stop a person from climbing out, like webs, paralysis, limbs broken, severed nerve, stunned, etc.

Anyhow, as long as they are not able to climb out while those afflictions are in effect, then I am fine with their speed.

That is what I am saying, not regular pits, regular pits are fine, but spike pits, 2 morphite 3 mactans, still out in 2 seconds and they even were asleep. I have hit others with 2 dendroxin 2 calcise and mantakaya, even dulak, mantakaya, calcise, mantakaya, dulak. They are still out.

Now with snake pits, cobras, eyelash vipers they can still be out, even though they are getting bit and knocked down, withered arms?

Who cares about a regular pit, climb is fine with regular pits. Even when they fall and break both legs and pop right back out, (which they should always have levitate up, but still, even when they don't) that is fine. My problem is snake pits our TRANS skill is voided, even our afflicting spikes are just as easily bypassed, and that is the problem.

Bards whip on out, don't have to shield to snakes and seem to be able to climb when they have no legs or arms to climb with, even when stupidity is afflicting them, and paralysis. That is what is too much, NOT the basic pit every one uses on raids but the pits, we actually take time setting up.

Remember, I also said to you that if they are able to start climb while off-balance, then it is probably a bug. Well, I extend that statement to them being able to do it will afflictions. They should not be able to start the climb with their limbs broken, or paralyzed.

I know that when pits were bugged for bards I did not use pits on them, but to ask the same of them not to use climb, hah, doubt they have that much honor.

Just wondering: what's the point of using morphite in a spike pit? They take damage when they hit the bottom, even without levitation I think.

Heh, I'm not sure what this has to do with honor really. How they would not use it? Just sit peacefully in the pit if they fall in never climbing out? That seems a bit much to ask really, even if it is bugged.

ANNOUNCE NEWS #729
Date: 2/7/2007 at 4:16
From: Sior the Anomaly
To : Everyone
Subj: Envoy Updates

Acrobatics:
- Bards should be able to climb out of pits properly now.
- Climbing in Acrobatics will forgoe the need to have balance when
climbing out of a pit.


EDIT:
Forgot to add this:
ab acrobatics climb
Syntax: CLIMB UP (to climb trees)
You can climb faster than most, including out of pits.