Are credits won through bardic and artisanal contests transferable to other characters that the same player own?



Thanks,
Des

As far as I know, Bardic things are considered something written IC, by your character. So you can't transfer them like OOC bought credits.

I'm pretty sure Bard/Art credits are considered IC. I actually submitted entries on two different charas (in separate contests) on Achaea in order to get credits for both of them upon winning one of the prizes.

Not to mention in Achaea that Sartan actually asked before for more artisanal entries of Him and of Mhaldor in general.

Okay, thanks for the help, that actually makes my life easier as I don't have to debate if I want to use a different character or not.

Might do what you said and write another story, though.

Thanks for playing but the answer we were looking for was from HELP CREDIT TRANSFERS:

OOC ways to gain credits (which can then be transferred freely)
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- Buy them for money on the Lusternia website, or via the mails.
- Win a Bardic/Artisanal contest.
- As a Guide.

Anarias FTW.

Now I have thinking to do.

They are considered to be something your character wrote, but as Anarias said, you can transfer the credits.

Anything that is not a bound credit you can transfer between charachters.

Transferring credits you bought from the market with gold IG would be a violation of Help Seconds, Dag.

No No No No.

Question already answered.

Other than people parroting it on the forums, does anyone have a source for the claim that bardics have to be written by your character? Nothing in HELP BARDIC says so; about the only supporting argument I can find is that you see it in your honors, which is thin evidence indeed. (The fact that you can transfer them seems at least as strong, if not stronger, as a counterargument, but both are very circumstantial.)

In my opinion, this would be a silly rule if it did exist. First, there already is an IC means of writing things, publishing them, and having them scored. Second, and more importantly, it's entirely possible to be a good writer playing a character who is not a good writer, or who doesn't have the inclination or time to write. Gwylifar was not much of a writer; of the three bardics I submitted while playing Gwylifar, only one was written by him (and that one was based on a vision).

"This character is assumed to have created the work in-role" seems like it has to be written by your character to me.

Meh, was that always there? Bad bad bad bad bad idea. Let's pretend it's an artifact from pre-libraries Achaea, and ignore it for the good of humanity and decency and common sense and roleplaying freedom.

That was indeed always there. I agree that it's unnecessarily restrictive though. (Especially if I get to deny ever having written my first bardic. Oi. )

My problem is with the arts one, more so than the library.

But if you are really concerned you can make an alt, and have the alt win, and then transfer the credits.

Or make it like your not so literate character dictated their words to a scribe who actually did the writing.

I think it's good for the bardics to be considered IC. Otherwise, all announcements about them, any discussion IC about bardic-related topics, etc. would be impossible. As it is, bardic submissions can be discussed ICly, even though they technically can't be accessed ICly...

I would like to see bardic winners automatically submitted to the respective IC libraries of the characters for publication. It would save a lot of the trouble of re-copying it into IC book form (I've had to do this several times, and it's always annoying), it would further the ICness of the bardic entry, and it would make the entries more readily available for everyone to read.

That this blurs the question of who deserves credit for the writing is symptomatic of what's wrong with this approach. But it's not merely a matter of writing ability. Think of all the things you could write about, and now limit it to just the things your character would take time out from his life to write. It limits the writing, or if you want to be able to do bardics freely, limits character concepts. And for what? There's no upside to weigh against this downside.

No, the only reasonable "compromise" is to ignore the rule. It serves no purpose. If you want your writings to be in character, by all means, write them in character. But there's nothing gained by limiting it to that.

I would love this. It bugs me when folk win bardics and never submit anything to the library.

I don't think it would blur the question any more than someone dictating into a computer microphone and having the computer type the words would in RL.

But then, I don't see a problem with the rule limiting the writing to what your character would write. I've always considered the Bardic and Artisanals IC, because they're stated to be as such. Therefore, the idea of turning in an essay on the things one can learn from Lord Luciphage in Noola's name just seems silly to me. If I ever felt an overwhelming urge to write such an essay, there's always the alt option. Though, making an alt JUST for the purpose of submitting works seems a little off to me.

There are so many things to write about from the scope of your character though, or that can be twisted to fit the scope of your character... I honestly don't see the problem.