Druids and Magi

by Jitwix

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Jitwix2007-06-09 12:39:49
I finally got my Who's Who of Non-Classical Mythology (Sykes and Kendall, Oxford University Press, 1993) yesterday, and while browsing through it, I found this under the entry for Druids:

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At this stage, it is somewhat difficult to determine the main features of the Druidical religion, but it would appear that the druids themselves, who may have been of pre-Celtic origin, occupied a position similar to that of the Magi.
I found this very interesting cause the druid and mage classes are commune/city equivalents, both using demesnes in combat and sharing the skills of runes and dreamweaving. thumup.gif

However, lest I mislead you, I must include a quote from the Magi entry:

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A non-Aryan possibly Turanian tribe of professional magicians, astrologers and priests, established in western Persia before the advent of the Iranians.


Astrology is not the department of druids and magi in Lusternia, though whether wiccans and guardians are more priestly than they are could be debated (and probably has been).


PS. Anyone interested in non-Greco-Roman European mythology, Middle Eastern mythology, and South American mythology, I highly recommend this book, if you can get a copy.

ongaku2007-06-09 13:56:05
Hmm...I'll have to look it up sometime. Sounds interesting.

As for the Guardians/Wiccans being priestly, they seem to be the spiritual leaders of the cities/communes, which would imply (to me) that they are of a priestly nature. Whether "priests" is the correct term or not is certainly debatable, but I've always seen them as the spiritual leaders of their home cities/communes, so I would say that you could call them, generically, "Priestly."
Xavius2007-06-09 15:17:39
Historic Magi have pretty much nothing to do with Lusternian mages. Ours are based more off of the standard fantasy conception. tongue.gif

Same deal with druids, except the standard just happens to be a tad bit closer to what actually was. Real druids were never heralds of nature so much as they were priests of a mythology with a stronger tie to natural cycles than the Greco-Roman model.
Xenthos2007-06-09 17:27:59
QUOTE(Xavius @ Jun 9 2007, 11:17 AM) 416069
Historic Magi have pretty much nothing to do with Lusternian mages. Ours are based more off of the standard fantasy conception. tongue.gif

Same deal with druids, except the standard just happens to be a tad bit closer to what actually was. Real druids were never heralds of nature so much as they were priests of a mythology with a stronger tie to natural cycles than the Greco-Roman model.

See: Wiccans.

Hm-- Wiccans are the real Druids?
Unknown2007-06-09 17:38:43
QUOTE(Xavius @ Jun 9 2007, 10:17 AM) 416069
Same deal with druids, except the standard just happens to be a tad bit closer to what actually was. Real druids were never heralds of nature so much as they were priests of a mythology with a stronger tie to natural cycles than the Greco-Roman model.


Provisionally stated, of course.

Since the historical druids never wrote anything down, including beliefs or practices, all we really have to go on are a handful of myths and quasi-historical references to them.

In the words of Spinal Tap:

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In ancient times, hundreds of years before the dawn of history.
There lived a strange race of people...the Druids.
No one knows who they were, or what they were doing...
but their legacy remains...
hewn into the living rock of Stonehenge...


EDIT: No small amount of current scholarship disputes the fact that Stonehenge was a druidic structure.
Aiakon2007-06-09 17:39:37
Duhhhh. As everyone knows, Stonehenge was made by aliens.

I used to live five mins drive away. I know.
Unknown2007-06-09 17:43:18
QUOTE(Aiakon @ Jun 9 2007, 12:39 PM) 416093
Duhhhh. As everyone knows, Stonehenge was made by aliens.

I used to live five mins drive away. I know.


Aliens working in conjunction with the Illuminati and the Reverse-Vampires, to be precise.
Hazar2007-06-10 21:07:53
And the Illuminati merely being a cover for the hybrid descendents of the aliens and their human concubines. Don't forget that part.
Shamarah2007-06-10 21:54:44
QUOTE(Aiakon @ Jun 9 2007, 01:39 PM) 416093
Duhhhh. As everyone knows, Stonehenge was made by aliens.

I used to live five mins drive away. I know.


The Tralfamadorians, of course. To let their messenger know that they were sending him a replacement part.