So I'm thinking of starting WoW again. I only have the original at the moment but I'll probably get the expansion in a couple weeks. Who else here plays and on which servers? Is there a Lusternian guild? Any Aussies/people around the same time zone playing?

You poor thing - I wouldn't bother with the expansion. Play at 60 until you get bored and quit, for it will devour everything you care about and make it worse.

But, if you're desperate, hit me up next time I'm on MSN and you can have my expansion account. It has Xanartik, the 64 (maybe 65) gnome warlock with some relatively decent gear. It'll also let you download the expansion to your pc.

Sigh, what ever happened to my SM/DS vs resto druid 20 minute fights? Sad panda.

Edit: Cuber lies. LIES. Also, this account is based on Dark Iron. And there is Paris Hilton in TBC, too. Well, Haris Pilton. And a lot of other NPCS. And "Crimson Steer" energy drink. And.. and.. all sorts of stuff.

I play, but on European servers. I moved to Sha'tar as soon as the expansion was released - I kinda regret it, because the server is relatively new, which means crappy Auction Houses and few people to instance with.

If you intend to play WoW, you SHOULD get the expansion. I see no reason not to. The new areas are just too fun, and designed much better than the old ones, most quest rewards are actually useful now, as opposed to 5% of them in pre-TBC days (levels 15 and below excluded). Karahzan is everything Molten Core isn't - forget about boring tank'n'spank boss fights, everything requires tactics here, even easy bosses like Attumen can wipe the raid if you're not careful. So, it offers goodies both for casuals and hardcore raiders. As for PvPers - arena battles are way more fun than battleground PuGs with lollerboys. And outdoor PvP actually has objectives now.

Also, Draenei are a very cool race, while Blood Elves make great villains that you love to hate.

The only weak point here is that the LFG interface is crappy and makes it almost impossible to get a good group, as opposed to the LFG channel (which is still here, but you have to turn on the interface to use it... so annoying!). But the interface was added before TBC, and besides... Burning Crusade has Firefly puns! Not one, but two! And everything is better with Firefly.

EDIT: Also, find an active guild as soon as possible. WoW is much more fun in a group, and having a guild helps you find peeps for instances and group quests.

No. Do NOT, by any means, buy Burning Crusade. It's a HUGE waste of money - nowhere near enough material was released in it to make it worth buying. You get not enough for hitting 70 over what you get when you hit 60, and even then, there's nothing to do when you hit 70 anyway.

Or better yet, don't play it at all. I stopped playing it and I feel great now. Been wasting my time with Starcraft in preparation for Starcraft 2. Haha.

Yeah, you could sit at 60 and do NOTHING. Burning Crusade slaughtered endgame at 60, at least on my server. If you PVP only, you might have something to do, but if you're PvE, good luck finding a raid, or even anyone to run Strat and such with, without waiting four times as long as you should.

Basically, if you're 60 and like WoW, it's worth it. If you don't feel it's worth it, play something else. But playing WoW, at 60, without BC is just painful.

I'm on frostmourne server, and there is plenty of new content in the expansion, it's a whole new world so to speak, and if you get into a decent raiding guild there is so much content raidwise to poke a stick at you'll be hooked for ages.

Yeah. Nothing to do when you hit 70? The same things there were when you hit 60: raid, fill out your gear, pvp, quest for money, skill up your professions, hell, make an alt. I was never 60 pre-BC, but I can't imagine there was much more to do then than there is now at 70.

I like TBC, the new dungeons and bosses are much more fun, the raid dungeons are definitly better (Karazhan at least) and the quests about bombing from your flying mount are cute. And you can play only now and then as i do and still have fun and advance.
Cannot talk about PvP as I don't PvP much anyway.

Only pity is the abuse of reusing old models recolored for the new sets and NPCs gear.

DON'T BOTHER!

WoW is a bottomless pit from which there is no escape. Don't get involved. This is coming from someone who beat the game. Yes, I beat WoW. How you ask? I sold my account for 650$ US. For me, selling my account was a cleansing experience that offset all the pointless raids, idiots, and unfufilling PVP.

I let go of my baby, Moravec, to get away from this game. I quit about three and half months ago, right when people were starting to get into Kara.



All I have left of my WoW experiences are a couple CD's filled with screenpics, and my advice to you. Take it.

edit: Also on another note - I suggest anyone who is currently playing and has a level 70 character that they sell their account ASAP, while there is still a market for it. I don't think there will be much longer.

Hmm, after getting dragon on Achaea and finding nothing else to do, I thought about trying out WoW. I've never ever played it before. Actually, Achaea was my first mud. I then tried Lusternia for a month or two before switching back to Achaea.

I don't guess I'll be trying WoW now after reading these posts! Thanks for saving me the money

1) What shoulders are those?
2) I wish I could get Oblivion robes. Mine suck.

If anyone's interested in a wow account, i'm thinking of selling mine. Got a very well geared 70 priest with 1833+ healing and 150 mp5. Dwarf priest too.

Also has 10.9k hp and 225 resilience in pvp gear and is literally a pvp tank. Takes a lot of damage and never gets crit hard, if at all. Along with 1150+heal and 90 odd mp5 in the pvp set, comes with a dps set with about 600+ dmg and decent crit, nothing too special it's just for farming but it's a star if you wanted to spec shadow. Tailoring is at 375 and 2nd prof is at 0. Has a regular flying mount.

Rogue on the account just hit 70, and has mainly instance blues, 300 engineering 375 skinning and is mainly a farming alt for gold etc. If anyone is keen send me a message in lusternia, my forums inbox is full and i don't intend on clearing it.

Stick it to the MAN! Aka Blizzard.

I sold my account through craigslist. Took about a week and a half to get a decent amount of replies to my ad. I recommend you take the upmost care in protecting yourself from being scammed - it's happened to people. Ebay kinda shut down the whole operation of buying/selling characters and "game world" items (although people do it in other games no contest) I found this article to be helpful when I was selling http://ezinearticles.com/?How-to-Sell-Your...y&id=236957 - Also keep in mind that server type and transferability are a big deal when selling. Most people want to be able to transfer to a PVP server.

You can get some decent change for that account, Murph. Take a gander at craigslist and ebay for what the current selling prices are (it looks like selling prices have gone down ). Some brave souls still try to sell their accounts on ebay - sometimes they get cancelled, sometimes the auctions fall through the cracks.

On an unrelated note, is resilience still as lame as it was a few months ago or was it buffed? I remember like if you had 300 resilience it would about to -%6 crit protection. I was loling when I found that out and promptly stopped trying to get the stat.



If I remember correctly they're the high warlord dreadweave pvp shoulders >.> Not even that good, really...

I used to play a while ago. I was on Darrowmere. lvl 60 undead lock. Got bored of it pretty quickly.

Major PvPers seem to hover around 300 resilience rating, which is something like -10% chance to be crit and -20% crit damage. Still not sure it's worth stacking it unless it just comes along with other stats you want anyway, but I'm not a hardcore PvPer.

For a priest resilience if definitley worth stacking. At 225 resilience i get crit 6% less and take 11% less damage from crits.

Also, when you have talents that are 'when someone crits you' based, they will still proc whenever your reseilence prevents a crit on you. This is awesome for holy priests because we have 3 talents we can spec that are on crit, one heals 25% of crit, one prevents crits 100% for 6 seconds and the other is focused casting.

Thanks for that advice though, jI'll check it out. My character is on a PVP server with the transfer ready to go

EDIT: Resilience alone isn't that hot, but all the pvp gear comes with it. As a healer you definitley need survivability, with reslilience stam and retaining some +heal you can stay alive so much easier. Generally, a single person cannot kill me unless they are really good and have good gear. In normal pvp i can stay up against multiple people beating on me, just yesterday i got through 5 or so horde with the flag in wsg, so resilienece with stam really helps.

I hated priests as a lock. But if I could pull off a few dots, I was happy. Just hated it when they could dispell my dots and went after me.

wow is a waste of time, fill up our player base instead.

And that's crap. I played the retard warlock build (Shadow Mastery/Demonic Sacrifice) and even with the "quick hammer your iwin button" that pvp turned into in TBC, I could still hammer anyone who wasn't out of my level range, and I was pretty badly geared.

Granted, destruction was a lot easier, because manadumps = iwin, but still.

Everyone except forum warlocks admit that they're overpowered from their basic design on up.
* Resilience has almost no effect on an Affliction lock, since they can't crit.
* Full dots from an Affliction spec will kill me from full health, whether or not I manage to kill them in that time.
* They have to stack spell damage, stamina, and a bit of int and hit. Mages have to stack spell damage, int, crit, hit, and stamina, without gimping any of them. Resilience instead of int and hit if you're PvPing.
* Warlocks can easily have infinite mana in a raid environment, at the cost of a few global cooldowns. Mages have about two mana bars unless they chug expensive mana pots.
* Warlocks can deal damage while moving, with their dots. Mages do zero damage while running for their lives.
* PvP geared warlocks can easily have as much health as a tank geared Paladin.
* Pet abilities are not tied to the Warlock's global cooldown, so they can silence/seduce/eat debuffs while cced.
* Destro warlocks can outdamage equally geared mages.
* Destro warlocks are not penalized for reducing their cast times. Mages are.

Anecdotally: Around 60, I sparred my friend's felguard. Not him, just his pet. I had to blow Ice Block (8 minute cooldown )and my Water Elemental (2 minute cooldown) to kill it, because the damn thing has insane resists (resisted both frost novas and half my damage spells) and hits pretty damn hard on cloth.