Ok here is the fun question!

As a Nihilist sometimes I shieldstun, so assuming I dont plan to take up Warrior and speciliazation therefore wouldnt help me make up my mind, and also presuming I dont plan to buy any runes for it... What weapon should I use with shieldstun combo.

This assumes I get a shield rune so I can wield weapon and Symbol. I would envenom the weapon, shieldstun, and attack as well as handle parrying. This would stun, give me a chance to deliver a venom, cause mild damage, and give curing wounds to look at.

Rapiers and Hammers have the same damage and precision and max speed according to the table on
http://forums.lusternia.com/index.php?showtopic=7551

So thoughts on it? If they are really the same maxes then which is less comms generally?

Thanks for the help

I'd recommend a damage weapon that's about as fast as your shieldstun. You won't be able to get a speed weapon fast enough to hit twice in one shieldstun, so you'll only end up throwing your arms out of synch.

Makes sense, have both arms on bal after the hit, figured speed was best.

Although while on weapons how much do bleeding wounds boost bleeding? is it % or solid increase?

what Ceren said, but not for the same reason. You can attack and then shield stun, but you cannot shieldstun and attack. it's weird for some reason. THat also might be vice versa, but it's definately one way or the other, I remembered trying that with my athame. Anyways so you'll want max damage/precision and a speed to match your shield stun, I'd say precision since damage won't be too much anyways and precision helps more so that you hit it, plus might actually help more in groups with warrior and monk woundings.

Shieldstun requires full balance, but only uses arm balance. Precision doesn't affect accuracy.

you wont get very far if you only ever shieldstun/attack. The stun isn't long enough to prevent them from curing, and you'll just prolong the fight until they lock you down and kill you.

The optimal way to use shieldstun is switching to it midfight and using it. Example.

Crush head X 4

Crush head then raze in the next combo.

Swap shield, shieldstun smitedown. The stun prevent the parry or dodge via stancing, the smitedown kills them with bashbrain.

Murphy, you missed the point. Malarious is a nihilist.

I'd say just going with rapiers would be your best bet.

oh well then, I'd still go for the woundings, since I just think that'd be more useful in group combat if you're just trying to hinder them with shieldstun and a poison. plus the more wounds the more chance to stick a poison on that limb!

What Shampoo said, just go hammers instead. People usually fret more over the cutting stat on armor than the blunt stat. Trivial difference in the end, though.

Plus the visual of symbol + hammer is cooler then symbol + rapier.

True that!

I'd also say go with something high in Precision. It helps in wounding, which is good to help cripple someone, which in my experiences in combat with a Paladin, is very good, because fights end quickly!

He's a Nihilist. Why would precision have any relevance to him?

Poison proc percentage.

never going to have high enough wounds with that. :/ He'll miss 50% of the time, and when he hits, deal like, no wounds.

If he's trying to afflict poisons, he'll be much more efficient by just ordering them to drink vials with a Luciphage symbol.

Wounding a bodypart to increase poison rate won't do much good when you can't choose which bodypart you hit. I would go with damage.

Tome. best thing to wield if you can

Wield Symbol and Shield right now. Shield based on what I am slaying. Symbol kind of essential for combat and bashing both.