Unknown2007-09-10 22:54:11
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Unknown2007-09-10 23:10:54
Your logic would make more sense if you posted with your character's name, IMO.
Unknown2007-09-10 23:12:49
QUOTE(Sojiro @ Sep 10 2007, 11:10 PM) 440492
Your logic would make more sense if you posted with your character's name, IMO.
I like to keep my skin intact. This way, everyone knows thet skill, and no one whines about who is deciding to post it.
Hazar2007-09-10 23:13:44
No one whines, eh?
You are so naive.
You are so naive.
Unknown2007-09-10 23:14:22
QUOTE(Little Helper @ Sep 10 2007, 03:12 PM) 440493
I like to keep my skin intact. This way, everyone knows thet skill, and no one whines about who is deciding to post it.
You're a coward.
Edit: Just to clear the air, this hasn't been approved, this is basically just an idea at this point. It's what the general monk dev committee came up with.
Ashteru2007-09-10 23:18:01
You realize that Mods/Gods can see who posted, right?
Unknown2007-09-10 23:19:53
QUOTE(Visaeris Maeloch @ Sep 10 2007, 11:14 PM) 440495
You're a coward.
Ow? My feelings? I'm not a coward, I'm a realist.. If people knew who I was, I'd be killed IC for it over and over, but people have a right to know, ESPECIALLY if the reason you're hiding it is that you don't want nerfed because you KNOW the skills will cause problems.
Hazar2007-09-10 23:22:00
No...they won't.
This is far from an overpowered skillset. If anything, it's a little weak.
This is far from an overpowered skillset. If anything, it's a little weak.
Unknown2007-09-10 23:22:48
Neat, so Glom/Mag gets ninjas then?
Shamarah2007-09-10 23:23:57
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Lol.
Lol.
Unknown2007-09-10 23:29:43
Eavesdrop needs to be blocked by Invoke Blue or Privacy Gems/Areas. Same with Infiltrate. Critique/Realitycheck or Aethersight might negate some of these things as well.
Rooftops might be hard to code, and are you indoors or would there be new areas of cities or villages?
Overall, this seems inspired by the "Assassin/Snakes guilds" in the other IRE games. If so, shouldn't stealth be an option for Celestians or the Serenwilde, just to be fair? What's good for the goose is sauce for the gander, after all...
Wonder if there should be an assassination ability, if you're below x Health/Endurance, etc, or if you're prone you can try an insta-kill...
Rooftops might be hard to code, and are you indoors or would there be new areas of cities or villages?
Overall, this seems inspired by the "Assassin/Snakes guilds" in the other IRE games. If so, shouldn't stealth be an option for Celestians or the Serenwilde, just to be fair? What's good for the goose is sauce for the gander, after all...
Wonder if there should be an assassination ability, if you're below x Health/Endurance, etc, or if you're prone you can try an insta-kill...
Doman2007-09-10 23:31:34
QUOTE(Hazar @ Sep 10 2007, 05:22 PM) 440501
No...they won't.
This is far from an overpowered skillset. If anything, it's a little weak.
This is far from an overpowered skillset. If anything, it's a little weak.
Ok, think. This ISN'T their main spec. They get THIS along with their Kata spec. Mark? Silent teleport that is uncurable. nothx
Immunity from guards?
a new elevation in cities that only they can reach? (granted it's not added to environment)
Impersonating people and hiding on QW and scent?
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All this is is a skillset that will cause more griefing than is known to Lusternia. Mag will constantly be reading Celest and no one will know who's doing it, and there will be no way to stop it because of that guard immunity.
Shamarah2007-09-10 23:31:46
Blue blocking the abilities would make them worthless against 50% of the world.
Unknown2007-09-10 23:34:50
Well, does Blue currently have a use?
If not, it should counter eavesdropping abilities, that was its whole point in being created!
If not, it should counter eavesdropping abilities, that was its whole point in being created!
Hazar2007-09-10 23:37:28
QUOTE(Doman @ Sep 10 2007, 06:31 PM) 440508
Ok, think. This ISN'T their main spec. They get THIS along with their Kata spec. Mark? Silent teleport that is uncurable. nothx
Immunity from guards?
a new elevation in cities that only they can reach? (granted it's not added to environment)
Impersonating people and hiding on QW and scent?
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All this is is a skillset that will cause more griefing than is known to Lusternia. Mag will constantly be reading Celest and no one will know who's doing it, and there will be no way to stop it because of that guard immunity.
Immunity from guards?
a new elevation in cities that only they can reach? (granted it's not added to environment)
Impersonating people and hiding on QW and scent?
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All this is is a skillset that will cause more griefing than is known to Lusternia. Mag will constantly be reading Celest and no one will know who's doing it, and there will be no way to stop it because of that guard immunity.
It's not 'guard immunity' - it's a way to get past guards, which you can already do, for less power, by other means.
Impersonating people? See: dramatics, illusions.
Scent having a counter is not at all ridiculous.
A new elevation they can easily be knocked from and others might even be able to reach?
This doesn't have the griefing ability you're pretending it does, and it has less utility then Harmony - which is a seriously nice skillset.
And Phred - variety is the spice of life!
Yrael2007-09-10 23:40:18
I would especially like to know where you got that, because the stuff at the bottom is stuff that I messaged to Ethelon.
Edit: Yes, I'm aware that sounds fairly damning, but I am curious. Believe what you want, I suppose. I know what I did and didn't.
Edit: Yes, I'm aware that sounds fairly damning, but I am curious. Believe what you want, I suppose. I know what I did and didn't.
Unknown2007-09-10 23:41:08
I'm just not sure a spying skill should be limited to 1-2 orgs or just "the bad guys". If stealth becomes a viable option, give the Stealth skill to the bards in Celest and the Serenguard in Serenwilde, or something like that.
It's too useful a skill in this game to be one-sided. Let everybody spy!
It's too useful a skill in this game to be one-sided. Let everybody spy!
Veonira2007-09-10 23:42:20
I don't really understand why you would take it upon yourself to post something that hasn't been released to everyone, let alone finalized. And to top it off you didn't even post your name so you clearly know you're doing something wrong.
Hazar2007-09-10 23:43:01
Other people can spy with ecology, or dreamweaving, or phantasms.
I personally cherish the idea of two related but differentiated archetypes, northern and southern monks.
I personally cherish the idea of two related but differentiated archetypes, northern and southern monks.
Shamarah2007-09-10 23:47:50
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