I need a zmud system, I can't code my own so stupid quips about how I should aren't needed. So if anyone who has a good one for sale pm me with a price I'd apprieate it. Thanks.

Is there any reason as to why you can't make your own beyond the fact that you think you don't have the skills?

Because really, if I can make one, anybody can. heheh. Also, since Forren has posted his afflictionlist/curelist, it has become exponentially easier for someone to design their own system. I'm not saying this in a degrading way, I just think building your own system is the best route. It can be fun, it's very satisfying to win with, and even if it's not the best, since -you- made it, you know exactly how it works, and you can upgrade it at any time. It's not nearly as hard as you might think it would be. Thorgal's tutorial that's posted here is really good, and what I used to get my system started.

But I can't blame you if you don't want to invest that much time into system making, but maybe after you buy one, you'll consider working on your own while using it and learning from it.

Also, people have a bad habit of figuring out what system you have, and then exploiting its flaws. >_>

I don't have the time, I work two full time jobs and on my days off I don't want to be frustrated by my inability to code something propperly and spend the whole day off trying to fix some silly problem.

I still sell mine. I just don't advertise it (word of mouth only). Details are on my web site, of course.

I've started adding the caveat, however, that I will one day be moving to CMUD and support for Palisade will start to fall off as the system becomes old news.