Hi everyone: I'm wondering if anyone can help me compile a list of the ways that Seren guilds can kill.

Shofangi: Mantra deathtouch: HP/Mana/Ego lower than 2/3s. Crunch (requiring heavy wounds on the head and grapple.)
Moondancers: Toadcurse (hey, it counts): Get someone below 1/2 mana and toadcurse them, then stomp them to death.
Spiritsingers: Timed instakills for 8 seconds, blocked by deafness, leaving or forcing the bard to do something else.
Serenguard: Behead (BM, AL, PB) & Brainbash (BC); Disembowel (BM) & Burst Organs (BC); Decapitate (PB); Damage
Hartstone: Lash + thornrend: 4 limbs lashed and then thornrend for instakill. Gore; Eternal Slumber (Dreamweaving)

Miscellaneous: Crotamine, Sun Allergy

Everyone can damage kill.

Thanks!

Umm...Moondancers can't thornrend people. That's the droods. :/ Moondance Lash != Druid thing. Also, are you just looking for instakills or just kill, period?

This is exactly why I need tons of halp!

I just want ways to kill. Even the completely inviable ones. How can I, as a kill?

Serenguard will generally have two ways of insta-killing a person, depeding on the weapon specialization.

1) Doesn't have to be only insta-kills. Any kind of kills.

2) Those two ways are...?

Everyone should have damage kill listed. Spiritsingers only have damage kill, and eight-second instakill (blockable by deafness, leaving, or forcing an action).

Well, as far as I've done as a Moondancer, I could toadcurse+stomp someone or Moonburst them to death. Though you CAN get inventive with the Pooka if you get creative (ordering people to walk into guards, for example), but highly unlikely. :/

Serenguard depends on their specialization. I think there's a stag skill that let's you instakill someone who's below 1/4 health (impaled on horns, yes?), but other than that Serenguard's actual 'kill' strategies are based on their weapon skills. Which means, of course, damage kills, but also a variety of insta-kills such as disembowel, decapitate, and the like, I'm not an expert so I won't go into it.

Hartstone can kill with the thornrend method, they can also kill with sap and damage, or they can rely on their tertiary skill: ecologists could go for afflictions/stun/other effects + damage to kill, dreamweavers can go for that sleeping insta-kill or, again, affliction and damage. Pretty basic, really.

Actually, damage is a pretty good idea for most guilds, including Spiritsingers! Their insta-kill is, I think, 12 seconds? Also, this may be wrong, but I believe they can also work strongly with sleep-based skills (they a song to induce tiredness/put people to sleep), so they could use that to kill someone as well.

And Moondancers I don't know about, while Shofangi you seem to have covered pretty well. Ta!

Oh, and I also managed to kill Nessa with Masochism/Sensitivity Hexes if that counts. Could also Pooka people to sip crotamine, but don't think that'll be that effective either...

Thanks everyone, I really appreciate all of the feedback.

Narsrim gave some really, really helpful feedback via PM, so thanks to him too.

There are some things up in the original post that I don't have specifics on. Gore, behead, etc. (anything without something telling what it requires.) What's required for these?

Thanks again.

Bonecrusher serenguard can kill with Bashbrains and burst organs.

That has got to be the most awesome ability ever.

I quite like it too...want to see it up close sometime? It doesn't hurt much, really...

Actually I've always wished someone would toadcurse Noola and then that it was possible for them to pick her up and put her in their pocket. That would be really cool.

If Noola had the ability to toadcurse, I'd save up credits to buy a pet and it would be a toad wearing a little hat and belt and have it follow me everywhere and if silly little Mudsex crazy newbies tried to hit on Noola I'd be like "Watch out! That's what happened to the last one!"

Not really. I mean the bit about the warning. I think I totally would have a toad pet to follow me around though.

Myndie, Tuek used to feed me crotamine invested food, and hex lock me up while I killed myself. And honestly, there was no way to get out of it if he did it quick enough, and kept me too hemmed up to cure the crotamine. That is one way a moonie can kill.

Can anyone help fill in what's required for the above to kill?

Thanks in advance!

Add "zerg" to miscellaneous.

SG: Brainbash, Burstorgans, Behead, Disembowel, Execute + Stag Gore (1/4 health insta, afaik)
Moondancer: Toadcurse, Moonburst
Spiritsinger: Damage, that 8 seconds thingy
Hartstone: Thornrend, Gore, Bleeding

Curing toadcurse is even more fun than toadcursing.

It's like russian roulette, with a >50% chance that the curer gets toaded.

Should probably add Decapitate to PB SG. Not that anyone in their right mind would be a Pureblade.