So there was yet another school shooting yesterday, this time in Israel, this time, it was a terrorist attack...

Yochai Lipschitz, 18, of Jerusalem;

Yonatan Yitzchak Eldar, 16, of Shiloh;

Yonadav Chaim Hirschfeld, 19, of Kochav Hashahar;

Neriah Cohen, 15, of Jerusalem;

Roey Roth, 18, of Elkana;

Segev Pniel Avihayil, 15, of Neveh Daniel;

Avraham David Moses, 16, of Efrat

Maharata Trunoch, 26, of Ashdod


if anyone is interested, the following people are still hospitalised:

Naftali ben Gila
Yonatan ben Avital
Shimon ben Tirza
Nadav ben Hadas
Reuven ben Naomi
Elchanan ben Zehava

Did terrorist children attack the school? Or was it terrorist adults who raided and attacked and killed children? Either way it is sad, but it would be alot sadder if it was children killing children.

yea, what Ildaudididiidududidiudidid said. Were the first set of names kids that were the killers or that died?

Anybody who commits rampant murder of innocents needs to be gutted like a fish......except while still alive.

First list of names were the people who died, second list of names were the people still injured.

I've read 3 reports listing 3 different killers, from Hamas members to a disgruntled ex employeed from the school.

One report said there were two shooters, one report said there was one shooter.


Sort of like the bombing of Times Square that happened the same day, nobody is quite sure who did it.

Wow. That's so awful.

Just to clarify with those who were asking about children: Assuming daganev and I are talking about the same shooting (and I find it extremely likely that we are, unless there's been a second shooting and all my news sources have completely missed it) the school was a Yeshiva, a school where people study to become rabbis, so there were no young children there. The reports I heard said that the shooter was an Israeli Arab from east Jerusalem. He went in and started shooting before being shot by both a student and a nearby Israeli army officer who heard the yells.

I think quite possibly the most disturbing thing about the whole affair, at least for me, was the footage of the cheering and revelling in the streets in Gaza that they showed on the news. People there were twisted and brainwashed enough that they actually believed this to have been a wonderful, heroic action, which, quite frankly, is simply inhuman.

Maybe it's cause of how I'm all old and stuff, but 15 and 16 year olds are children.

A Yeshiva means that they learn Jewish texts. It does not mean that they are studying to become a rabbi.

Many people go to Yeshiva for a year between graduating highschool and going to college for example.

I'm not sure what to compare it to in the non Jewish world, but they all basically have the same schedule.
Yeshiva litterally means "sitting" or "dwelling", and thier shedule looks like this.

6 am pray
7 am eat breakfast,
8 am study with a partner for your first class
10 am go over what you studied with your partner in a lecture setting
12:00 have lunch
1:15 pm pray
1:45 pm study with a partner for your second class
3:30 pm go over what you studied with your partner in a lecture setting
6:00 pm have dinner
6:45 pm pray
7:00 pm have your third class, hear various lectures
10:00 pm start optional classes

Huh. I must have been thinking of something different.

EDIT: I know what I got wrong. I know several rabbis, most of whom mentioned going to Yeshiva to study, so I must have made the assumption that that was where you went to learn to be a rabbi. I feel really silly now. I don'y usually make mistakes like that... *sigh*

Its really just a difference of precision.

If you talk to a Doctor, he might say that he went to school to learn to become a doctor. Instead of saying that he went to medical school.

Many, not all, yeshivas have a program for giving Smicha (thats what makes you a rabbi)

There also exists, Rabinical schools, that will teach you more about how to work with a congregation, while a Yeshiva which gives Smicha will just teach you all the parts of Judaism relevant to being a rabbi, but not teach you much about say, how to negotiate with a board of directors.

Some rabbis just go to Rabinical school, and don't go to Yeshiva, some go to Yeshivah and not rabinical school, and some do both.