Behind the scenes, we have been going round and round debating skills that avoid essence loss and constructs that give them. We've punted this issue to envoys and have never come up with a satisfactory conclusion.

Thus, after much consideration and review, we have come up with a game plan and are 90% sure of doing the following:

• Remove the Black Crypt power
• Remove the Black Nest power (possibly removing the entire construct)
• Remove the resurgem benefits from the Moon Altar
• Remove resurrection/sacrifice powers from the Angel Font
• All death avoidance skills would receive a small experience loss
• Darkrebirth skill modified (see below)
• Lichdom skill modified (see below)
• Transmigration skill completely revamped (see below)

Darkrebirth

* Small experience loss (conglutinate level).
* Crow users with Darkrebirth skill can make eggs in their nests for others

Change to Lichdom

* Small experience loss (conglutinate level).
* Those who have the lichdom skill turn into archliches.
* Arcliches could plant a lich seed in others.
o If you are a lich marked by Archlich Bob -- Bob gets increased damage for cold aura if you
are in the same room as him.

New Transmigration Idea

* While deep bonded, you acquire some qualities of your animal (see below).
If the animal dies, its spirit merges within you for 60 minutes.
* While the animal is alive and in a body (not merged with you) , you will be protected from death insofar
that the animal will die in your stead.
* If animal saves you, you have a small experience loss (vitae like) but you keep your defenses.
* If you die while the animal is merged within you, you both die and you lose the animal
(until you call another one).

* Serenwilde
o owl - +1 int, flight
o badger - +1 con, +1 damage buff
o fox - +1 dex, cold/fire resistance

* Glomdoring
o tarantula - +1 con, leaping into air and grabbing
o viper - +1 dex, dendroxin immunity
o widow - +1 charisma, mactans immunity
o bat - +1 int, flight

...

Oh my god. I'll post thoughts after I've gathered them

Question: Will the DarkRebirth skill still be Prime Only, with the experience loss now attached?

(Not that it really matters much with conglutination, but for people who don't have conglutination or who aren't affected by conglutination, I think it's a valid question)

Also, Transmigration: Does the animal have to be *with* you to save you? If it saves you, are you reborn where you died, or where the animal does, if it doesn't have to be with you?

Hmm, how do the animals work? Can you store them in a stockroom, manse, or other place you can make completely inaccessible to anyone else?

Mine was always sitting in blacktalon guild hall.

Estarra what do you mean by

If you are a lich marked by Archlich Bob -- Bob gets increased damage for cold aura if you are in the same room as him.


Other than that, I love these changes.

Prime only.



No, the animal can be anywhere. You remain where you are when the animal saves you. it doesn't matter where the animal is. You don't actually "die", the animal does.

So are all demigods losing about the same amount of essence, on death?

So it's like Vitae...

Do all of the conglut-equivalents give grace, since they're now giving an experience loss? And will Avenger also be paying attention to these, including the Vitae-equivalent (transmigrate)?

This means that if you are an Archlich, for each lich in the room with you that you are responsible for turning into a lich, your cold aura would give extra damage. We wanted to give a little meaning and RP flavor for the relationship between an Archlich and those he or she turned. Open to other ideas on this.

Pretty sure all demigods/ascendants will.

Doesn't seem to really help me at all, unfortunately. But that's okay, it's more for the organization as a whole and general game balance.

That has not been decided. Feel free to share your opinions.

<3

On the lichseed thing, would they be able to give the lichseed against someone's will? i.e. without permission of some sort?

So, will the Moon altar be getting anything to make up for losing the resurgem benefits? I'm just curious, because if it doesn't, it's just a construct with single coning and transport to a single aetherbubble. Unless by resurgem benefits, you only mean the soul ressurection. Personally, I rather find something else anyways other than the resurgem stuff.

Since they are losing xp they should be protected by the Avenger.

Haven't thought of that. Would be an interesting either way. Open to opinions.

(Maybe there should be a chance of giving a lichseed against someone's will, i.e., target has 5 seconds to leave the room before the lichseed is planted.)

Further, all of the changes now give experience loss, so they should definitely be watched by Avenger. They weren't before because it wasn't a "true death"-- no experience loss, so he didn't care, as I understand it. Now they're actual deaths with an impact, and should still be subject to avenger just like resurgem/sacrifice/rez.

Not so sure about grace. Lich/Transmigrate definitely should *not* be given Grace since they're still in the same area. The lesser egg rebirth also shouldn't be. The normal Crow one is different in that it takes you home, but probably not worth giving it grace.

(PS: Sending you an in-game message about something else that should change if this is done, that's not really forum-postable as it'll definitely get abused if I do).