Combat Futures

by Malarious

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Malarious2008-04-25 07:52:48
As requested the problem with combat is varied based on guild and skills. As such this topic has been made for people to post the -problems- not the preferences (control yourselves.. no 2s instas).

This assumes racial changes are made.. for instance:

Crucify will be extremely slow with the changes, to help cope with this it should be lowered to base 5

or in envoy form

#Skillset: Necromancy
#*Skill: Crucify
#*Problem: With the change in racial speed crucify will be too slow to use without being cured before equilibrium is regained.
#*Solution: Lower the base eq to 5 seconds.
Fain2008-04-25 08:12:31
QUOTE(Malarious @ Apr 25 2008, 02:52 AM) 505715
As requested the problem with combat is varied based on guild and skills.


We do our best to give the players what they want.
Malarious2008-04-25 08:15:36
QUOTE(Fain @ Apr 25 2008, 04:12 AM) 505726
We do our best to give the players what they want.


I wouldnt argue that.. or you wouldnt have envoys tongue.gif

THe problem is we need to prioritize them if we go 1 per guild at a time... so we need to know what to change.. as well as which one is in the worst shape perhaps.
Celina2008-04-25 08:41:19
I think some skillsets just aren't viable for top tier combat with this racial rebalancing. I think dreamweaving falls in this category, I just don't know how to fix it. Anyone else notice that it's just really slow?

anywho...

#Skillset: Crow
#*Skill: disease
#*Problem: Long balance loss for one masked affliction (pox, rigormortis, scabies). Only viable for faelings, and even then...it's long.
#*Solution: Cut the balance loss in half.

#Skillset: Crow
#*Skill: regurgitate
#*Problem: Long eq to heal 1/4th max health. Pales in comparison to its counterpart, Medicinebag
#*Solution: make it work just like Medicinebag, or drastically reduce it's eq cost.

#Skillset: Crow
#*Skill: Deathmask
#*Problem: Drains power when you kill people where as things like Swiftstripes are really helpful
#*Solution: Instead of a constant bonus like swift stripes, a temporary mask that gives the equivelent of quicken.
Karnagan2008-04-25 11:06:15
Can Crucify be set to Sacrifice instantly if a target has all four limbs shattered? Make it cost 10 power or something, but the precedent has been set by Achaea's Vivisect. It's annoying to think people can just writhe off your 7 power attack literally before you regain equilibrium. sad.gif
Desitrus2008-04-25 14:11:19
QUOTE(Karnagan @ Apr 25 2008, 06:06 AM) 505747
Can Crucify be set to Sacrifice instantly if a target has all four limbs shattered? Make it cost 10 power or something, but the precedent has been set by Achaea's Vivisect. It's annoying to think people can just writhe off your 7 power attack literally before you regain equilibrium. sad.gif


*Tastes...smacks lips a bit*

Definitely a hint of minty teamerology...

I mean seriously, noone ever writhed off this when I was nihilist before I got eq back (Barring size 1, but come on). And no, I was not a mugwump.
Xavius2008-04-25 19:50:16
QUOTE(Celina @ Apr 25 2008, 03:41 AM) 505733
I think some skillsets just aren't viable for top tier combat with this racial rebalancing. I think dreamweaving falls in this category, I just don't know how to fix it. Anyone else notice that it's just really slow?

anywho...

#Skillset: Crow
#*Skill: disease
#*Problem: Long balance loss for one masked affliction (pox, rigormortis, scabies). Only viable for faelings, and even then...it's long.
#*Solution: Cut the balance loss in half.

#Skillset: Crow
#*Skill: regurgitate
#*Problem: Long eq to heal 1/4th max health. Pales in comparison to its counterpart, Medicinebag
#*Solution: make it work just like Medicinebag, or drastically reduce it's eq cost.

#Skillset: Crow
#*Skill: Deathmask
#*Problem: Drains power when you kill people where as things like Swiftstripes are really helpful
#*Solution: Instead of a constant bonus like swift stripes, a temporary mask that gives the equivelent of quicken.


Disease often gives two afflictions (and still sucks, I know, but it's not that bad), regurgitate is already up on envoys, and you just can't give druids quickening.
Malarious2008-04-25 22:51:43
QUOTE(Desitrus @ Apr 25 2008, 10:11 AM) 505760
*Tastes...smacks lips a bit*

Definitely a hint of minty teamerology...

I mean seriously, noone ever writhed off this when I was nihilist before I got eq back (Barring size 1, but come on). And no, I was not a mugwump.


I think he means it more from an Ur'Guard stand point.

We can balance lock they cant other than maybe BC.
Malarious2008-04-25 22:59:13
QUOTE(Celina @ Apr 25 2008, 04:41 AM) 505733
I think some skillsets just aren't viable for top tier combat with this racial rebalancing. I think dreamweaving falls in this category, I just don't know how to fix it. Anyone else notice that it's just really slow?

anywho...

#Skillset: Crow
#*Skill: disease
#*Problem: Long balance loss for one masked affliction (pox, rigormortis, scabies). Only viable for faelings, and even then...it's long.
#*Solution: Cut the balance loss in half.
I can agree with that

#Skillset: Crow
#*Skill: regurgitate
#*Problem: Long eq to heal 1/4th max health. Pales in comparison to its counterpart, Medicinebag
#*Solution: make it work just like Medicinebag, or drastically reduce it's eq cost.
Healer tarot does this and is base 4.

#Skillset: Crow
#*Skill: Deathmask
#*Problem: Drains power when you kill people where as things like Swiftstripes are really helpful
#*Solution: Instead of a constant bonus like swift stripes, a temporary mask that gives the equivelent of quicken.
Have to agree quicken with a druid might be bad.

Ashai2008-04-26 00:03:21
In regards to carrion, though I don't think this needs any justification, Blacktalon have no skills whatsoever to help in bashing (Minus darkrebirth, which I love, but doesn't help in killing things, really). I honestly don't know very much about guardians (people with healer tarot), but I know that things like quicken can create more dynamic bashing. Mages have reflections. But let's compare both druid classes: Stag is already so much better than Crow, but Hartstone have access to a great healing skill, and carrion (although it is a nice amount of health that it gives) has such a big time, it will never help in tanking, because you will always receive more damage in the time that you're recovering balance that it gives back to you, of course, in a situation where it's worthwhile to use extra helping skills.
Malarious2008-04-26 00:27:26
QUOTE(Ashai @ Apr 25 2008, 08:03 PM) 506059
In regards to carrion, though I don't think this needs any justification, Blacktalon have no skills whatsoever to help in bashing (Minus darkrebirth, which I love, but doesn't help in killing things, really). I honestly don't know very much about guardians (people with healer tarot), but I know that things like quicken can create more dynamic bashing. Mages have reflections. But let's compare both druid classes: Stag is already so much better than Crow, but Hartstone have access to a great healing skill, and carrion (although it is a nice amount of health that it gives) has such a big time, it will never help in tanking, because you will always receive more damage in the time that you're recovering balance that it gives back to you, of course, in a situation where it's worthwhile to use extra helping skills.


Honestly I can say I agree that crow needs love to be on par with stag.

You should be at base 4 to use your healing skill, believe it also drains some of the carrion from you/nest.
Ashai2008-04-26 01:50:06
QUOTE(Malarious @ Apr 25 2008, 06:27 PM) 506074
Honestly I can say I agree that crow needs love to be on par with stag.

You should be at base 4 to use your healing skill, believe it also drains some of the carrion from you/nest.


Well, the nest holds 100 carrion. You can take carrion from your nest one piece at a time. You can hold 20 carrion, but in crowform, you can hold 40. Using regurgitate takes up 2 carrion per use. For the record, one kephera is about 8 carrion. Also, carrion in your nest decays at a rate of one piece per lusternian day, I think. All just stuff to be taken into consideration for what sort of effect it deserves.
Malarious2008-04-26 01:57:55
It isnt particularly hard o get carrion then.. 1 kephera is 4 regurg. But it has as cost to it (carrion) so it shoudlnt be so slow.