Arel2008-05-19 03:29:54
This has probably been brought up before, but I can't find the thread, so I'll just make this one.
While vote weight was an excellent idea in preventing alt abuse in elections and it adds the nice RP benefit of having a great amount of influence, it is a headache when it comes to referendums. In particular, it is a large problem in leadership clans (e.g. The Shadow Court). Clans like that are very limited in membership, so there is no real worry of alt abuse, so there is no need for vote weighting. In cases like that, it just highly skews the voting.
It would be great if referendums had the option to toggle vote weighting on or off, that way vote weight could still be used in large referendums (like for city/commune stuff) but could be disable for leadership clans, or other clans who use referendums.
Thoughts?
While vote weight was an excellent idea in preventing alt abuse in elections and it adds the nice RP benefit of having a great amount of influence, it is a headache when it comes to referendums. In particular, it is a large problem in leadership clans (e.g. The Shadow Court). Clans like that are very limited in membership, so there is no real worry of alt abuse, so there is no need for vote weighting. In cases like that, it just highly skews the voting.
It would be great if referendums had the option to toggle vote weighting on or off, that way vote weight could still be used in large referendums (like for city/commune stuff) but could be disable for leadership clans, or other clans who use referendums.
Thoughts?
Shiri2008-05-19 03:33:51
Yeah, we had this topic before. Linking it since the discussion is there anyway.
Arel2008-05-19 03:45:35
Thanks, Shiri.
Xenthos2008-05-19 11:57:07
Like I told you when you brought it up, I support the idea 100% for referendums.
A major surprise I'm sure, with that thread Shiri linked to.
A major surprise I'm sure, with that thread Shiri linked to.
Gwylifar2008-05-19 12:03:31
I bet it'd be easy to just show both the count and total, and let the people running the referendum decide which one is useful for that particular referendum.
Shiri2008-05-19 12:07:18
QUOTE(Gwylifar @ May 19 2008, 01:03 PM) 513588
I bet it'd be easy to just show both the count and total, and let the people running the referendum decide which one is useful for that particular referendum.
Then everyone has to hassle them to decide -beforehand- which to use rather than wasting time arguing about it when they decide the result they wanted is the one they use.
Of course, that's still more convenient than not having it at all, so if it gets it coded, fine.
Aison2008-05-19 13:36:53
They should be able to toggle referendums.
SET REFERENDUM # VOTEWEIGHT ON/OFF or something.
That way if they just want to know which is more popular they can, rather than do it based on vote weight.
edit: wow. should read the first post and not the last two before posting. My bad.
SET REFERENDUM # VOTEWEIGHT ON/OFF or something.
That way if they just want to know which is more popular they can, rather than do it based on vote weight.
edit: wow. should read the first post and not the last two before posting. My bad.
Gwylifar2008-05-20 14:20:37
QUOTE(Shiri @ May 19 2008, 08:07 AM) 513591
Then everyone has to hassle them to decide -beforehand- which to use rather than wasting time arguing about it when they decide the result they wanted is the one they use.
Or, if it's the Moonhart Circle, wait until after and then choose whichever one gives them the answer they wanted. That'll cut in half the number of times they have to repeat referenda to get the desired outcome!
Anyway, from a coding standpoint, showing both is probably a matter of changing a few lines of code; adding a new command and a new flag is probably still pretty simple but an order of magnitude bigger.
