I don't mind the lines (I gag them). It's the fact that the quest prevents novices from doing the popular scholars and bards quest, and even prevents the pilgrim quest. How was this ever a fair or balanced quest to implement? Celest can't do it for obvious roleplay reasons - was this even taken into account or did the Admin think Celest would toss away moral RP for game mechanics?

Basically, Eventru, the quest is close to Mag and stays close to Mag.



Overall, raising him isn't the hard part, it's taking him down. Raising him is easy for any Mag who has some time and a monolith sigil. They can't be jumped because if they get killed they'll have status and can pick up the quest as soon as they come back (aka lich/vitae).

The quest is obviously meant for Mag/Gloms and very few Serens will likely attempt it without being enemied to Celest straight off. So how come Celest doesn't have a pro-Light quest like this specifically targeted against Mag? To prevent Mag (and even the rest of the communes), from allowing their novices to do one of the most popular and simple, and effective, quests known in Lusternia? It's common knowledge that after the Newton Caverns, the easiest and best way to level up and get some gold is by questing - scholars, bards, pilgrims. Any simple minded fool can do those quests since not everyone has the gift of being able to figure out the 'big' ones. How is an obviously frustrating, unbalanced quest like this even allowed in an IRE game, that directly impacts each nexi except for the one which its basically MADE for? Whose idea was this? Who was okay with this? Who approved it? Why? I'm asking as a customer and a player, not just a lunatic ().

Now, I have been trying to look at this quest from both angles. It's great for Mags, because it's easy for them, they rarely get stopped, it's probably great gold and experience, it's an awesome honors line, PLUS they get to wipe out anyone else's chance of becoming culture centre when they really focus on doing it repeatedly. A bonus is that a lot of people can die from it while trying to kill Globglob, specifically Celestians. Also, I think (but am not 100% sure), that only members of Mag can actually complete the quest. Celestians can't. Serens/Gloms might need a Mag's help, as they might only be able to go so far (and no Mag would likely help them since if a member of another org does it, globglob speaks at the Megalith). Although Zia has the honors line, she may have gotten help (she was the first person to do it, I think).

I know the Admin are probably trying to find power sinks for nexi (since they have been steadily growing, and raiding doesn't really impact it, and we have things like Domoths and empowering the Tide/Earth Lords, etc. to make up the costs of raising VAs and also supporting citizens withdrawals), but I really don't think this is the way to go about doing it. I'm trying not to get angry, but this whole quest is so frustrating and annoying that it's hard not to get mad about the subject. It's almost overwhelming.

Some answers, and possibly fixes, would be welcome. At least make the quest easier to stop, or prevent entirely, or, you know, remove the whole thing because it was such a bad idea to begin with.

Just do it.

That's as ignorant as telling Magnagora to just kill their Demon Lords and never raise them so they never have to defend Nil again.

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Seriously?

One benefits an organization (doing the quest).

One harms an organization (killing demon lords).

There would be no complaint if you just did the quest. And don't use the argument think of hte novices, beacuse when I was novice there was only pilgrims.

Yes, seriously. Let's say there was a quest which destroyed the Taint with side benefits. Would Magnagora do the quest for the side benefits?

Random options:

1) Set up a druid/mage with a demesne in the centre so that you can signal a flare to your city/commune as soon as a Mag or someone who might want to do the quest hops up there. Impractical, boring, but, it could get the job done.

2) Kill the gravedigger queen as often as possible.

3) Influence and kill, in that order, pilgrims/scholars/bards when they decide they don't like your city/commune.

4) Find out who did the stupid quest last and grief them with a group of griefers.

5) Take the novices on hunting trips and show them other quests they can do.

6) Throw a temper tantrum, destroy your computer, call up IRE support and tell them they're jerks, then find a way to fix your computer so you can feed your Lusternia addiction.
Personally, I'd go with six.

Yes, beacuse it would help advance Magnagora.

I'm going to dismiss options 3, 4 and 6, as they are quite frankly, stupid. Option 5 has some some merit, but the point is a quest such as that, which novices use a lot, should not be blocked by another quest like that. As for options 1 and 2, that's the point of this thread. Why should we have to put up with it?

Yes, beacuse it would help advance Magnagora.

Aison, you are telling me to leave my unbiased opinion elsewhere, but you are the one biased and continuing to hold onto the high road and bring your character's opinion here and your character's roleplay here in saying that you can't do the quest.

Because you can.

Now I really want to see such a quest being made.

It's realy not tha big of a deal for Magnagora to remove taint from places for rewards because we can just tell a geomancer to go retaint it once we have the prize.

It's pretty hard to imagine a quest that mechanically benifets Magnagora but goes against Mag's RP. It's the only city in an IRE game that regularly uses mind controlling drugs on it's citizens and tries (and succeeds at!) controlling what amounts to the zerg overmind by nailing it to the ground with railroad spikes and a big hammer.

It's realy not tha big of a deal for Magnagora to remove taint from places for rewards because we can just tell a geomancer to go retaint it once we have the prize.

I meant remove like completely. Destroy it forever

It would untaint areas like the Blasted Lands, which superficial taint from Geomancers can't really reverse. You'd have to do the counterquest.