Nezha2008-08-13 08:58:19
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Base: 4959h
With a powerful lunge, Desitrus strikes at you with a serrated gold-runed broadsword. Desitrus strikes deep into your right shoulder, which severs a nerve and causes your entire right side to go numb.
3363h, 5373m, 4572e, 10e, 22205en, 24875w exkb- <15:34:20.782>
Damage: -1596
With a focused look, Geb strikes at you with a finely sharpened klangaxe. Your right leg is elegantly struck and swept out from under you, knocking you to the ground.
2988h, 5373m, 4572e, 10e, 22205en, 24875w exkbp- <15:37:19.351>
Damage: -1971
With a focused look, Thoros strikes at you with a colossal punisher flail. Your left leg is elegantly crushed and swept out from under you, knocking you to the ground.
3046h, 5373m, 4097e, 10e, 20870en, 24783w xkdbp- <17:47:12.961>
Damage: -1913
With a powerful lunge, Desitrus strikes at you with a serrated gold-runed broadsword. Desitrus strikes deep into your right shoulder, which severs a nerve and causes your entire right side to go numb.
3363h, 5373m, 4572e, 10e, 22205en, 24875w exkb- <15:34:20.782>
Damage: -1596
With a focused look, Geb strikes at you with a finely sharpened klangaxe. Your right leg is elegantly struck and swept out from under you, knocking you to the ground.
2988h, 5373m, 4572e, 10e, 22205en, 24875w exkbp- <15:37:19.351>
Damage: -1971
With a focused look, Thoros strikes at you with a colossal punisher flail. Your left leg is elegantly crushed and swept out from under you, knocking you to the ground.
3046h, 5373m, 4097e, 10e, 20870en, 24783w xkdbp- <17:47:12.961>
Damage: -1913
These are taken recently. i.e last two days.. These are just normal attaks with no ibululu or omen or anything. And im trans resilience too.. robes at 46/53
Something is terribly wrong with these figures. Too high, too high *mumble* Fix ett please..
EDIT: I checked again thoros's damage against me and it is consistent. It is about 1600-1900 in my logs..
Shiri2008-08-13 09:02:41
Is a klangaxe the damage-type axe? It seems highly off otherwise that Geb is getting a whole 1/2 of Thoros' damage per combo. Desitrus' -400 I can chalk up to arti differences.
Rika2008-08-13 09:10:14
Klangaxe is speed axe.
Unknown2008-08-13 09:19:29
Is warrior damage too high? Well depends, you need to look at it from different perspectives. 1 on 1 you can hinder plus you have the basic defences. The damage may seem high but after healing, hinderences, passives, and defences it pretty much evens out. Rebounding, stancing, parrying (assuming power strikes aren't used), and dodging in Nezha's instance due to being a bard. In group combat is where the damage is too high at times, since instead of focusing on keeping one warrior down, you have multiple who have the potential to use damage against you.
Nezha2008-08-13 09:22:33
The problem is the -1913 damage is just one of your flails.. You attack in twos.. so, thats over 3k.. i cant heal that - and four of those attacks kills me instantly.
And this too..
Its not like your attack is slow.. I can understand if its like mindblast going every 6sec..
So yeah.. too fast, too strong, toohigh.
And this too..
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With a focused look, Thoros strikes at Liam with a colossal punisher flail. With an elegant stroke, Thoros crushes his left leg, knocking him to the ground.
5377h, 5912m, 3724e, 10e, 20870en, 24870w ekdb- <17:59:53.386>
With a focused look, Thoros strikes at Liam with a colossal punisher flail. Thoros smacks his left leg with a force that goes to the bone.
5377h, 5912m, 3724e, 10e, 20870en, 24870w ekdb- <17:59:54.089>
With a focused look, Thoros strikes at Liam with a colossal punisher flail. Thoros plows the flail deep into the meat of his left leg, making him stumble and totter.
5377h, 6178m, 4262e, 10e, 20870en, 24875w ekdb- <17:59:56.827>
With a focused look, Thoros strikes at Liam with a colossal punisher flail. Thoros plows the flail deep into the meat of his left leg, making him stumble and totter.
Liam's body judders with the final strike, and a dull snap echoes out as something vital inside him is irrevocably broken. His eyes roll up into his head and a lifeless corpse is all that falls.
Liam has been slain by Thoros.
5377h, 6178m, 4262e, 10e, 20870en, 24875w ekdb- <17:59:57.419>
5377h, 5912m, 3724e, 10e, 20870en, 24870w ekdb- <17:59:53.386>
With a focused look, Thoros strikes at Liam with a colossal punisher flail. Thoros smacks his left leg with a force that goes to the bone.
5377h, 5912m, 3724e, 10e, 20870en, 24870w ekdb- <17:59:54.089>
With a focused look, Thoros strikes at Liam with a colossal punisher flail. Thoros plows the flail deep into the meat of his left leg, making him stumble and totter.
5377h, 6178m, 4262e, 10e, 20870en, 24875w ekdb- <17:59:56.827>
With a focused look, Thoros strikes at Liam with a colossal punisher flail. Thoros plows the flail deep into the meat of his left leg, making him stumble and totter.
Liam's body judders with the final strike, and a dull snap echoes out as something vital inside him is irrevocably broken. His eyes roll up into his head and a lifeless corpse is all that falls.
Liam has been slain by Thoros.
5377h, 6178m, 4262e, 10e, 20870en, 24875w ekdb- <17:59:57.419>
Its not like your attack is slow.. I can understand if its like mindblast going every 6sec..
So yeah.. too fast, too strong, toohigh.
Rika2008-08-13 09:28:12
So, 978 with my flails. No, warrior damage isn't too high. Artifacted warrior damage IS too high.
Unknown2008-08-13 09:28:20
Get demigod then. 
Xiel2008-08-13 09:29:53
Robes and shield stats could play a bigger effect in your defense too, so could look into getting some better ones too, perhaps.
Rika2008-08-13 09:32:07
QUOTE(Thoros LaSaet @ Aug 13 2008, 09:28 PM) 545167
Get demigod then.
Who are you talking to? Better be Nezha.
Unknown2008-08-13 09:32:22
Hey there's no way I 4 shotted Liam. 
Was definitely puissance hit while I had some mean buffs (celerity/vendetta and karma war blessing). Plus Liam can numen anyways.
Was definitely puissance hit while I had some mean buffs (celerity/vendetta and karma war blessing). Plus Liam can numen anyways.Unknown2008-08-13 09:33:06
QUOTE(rika @ Aug 13 2008, 09:32 AM) 545171
Who are you talking to? Better be Nezha.
Duh, demigod.
Rika2008-08-13 09:34:58
The obvious solution would be to remove all artie runes (and then possibly even slightly buffing warriors). However, we all know that will never happen. 
Unknown2008-08-13 09:36:05
Nezha2008-08-13 09:36:27
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Robes and shield stats could play a bigger effect in your defense too, so could look into getting some better ones too, perhaps.
my shield is 40/44.. and anyway a few more + stats in shield/robes wont make a difference against near 2k damage.. i actually asked about splendors and the feedback i got was the +10/+10 wont make a significant reduction to damage. its more about the wounding.. (os so they say)QUOTE
Hey there's no way I 4 shotted Liam. blackeye.gif Was definitely puissance hit while I had some mean buffs (celerity/vendetta and karma war blessing). Plus Liam can numen anyways.
The point was the attacks was very fast.. say in 7sec, you are able to attacks 4 times.. Thats time enough for me to do one sip/sparkle/scroll.. against 4x1.9k? rich..
Unknown2008-08-13 09:38:13
QUOTE(nezha @ Aug 13 2008, 09:36 AM) 545176
my shield is 40/44.. and anyway a few more + stats in shield/robes wont make a difference against near 2k damage.. i actually asked about splendors and the feedback i got was the +10/+10 wont make a significant reduction to damage. its more about the wounding.. (os so they say)
The point was the attacks was very fast.. say in 7sec, you are able to attacks 4 times.. Thats time enough for me to do one sip/sparkle/scroll.. against 4x1.9k? rich..
The point was the attacks was very fast.. say in 7sec, you are able to attacks 4 times.. Thats time enough for me to do one sip/sparkle/scroll.. against 4x1.9k? rich..
Spendours DO make you more tanky against warriors because you gain more elemental resistances, too. For a grand total of more cutting/blunt protection, and proofs to cold/fire/electric/magic which are twice as potent as normal robes.
Shiri2008-08-13 09:43:31
QUOTE(Thoros LaSaet @ Aug 13 2008, 10:32 AM) 545172
Hey there's no way I 4 shotted Liam. Was definitely puissance hit while I had some mean buffs (celerity/vendetta and karma war blessing). Plus Liam can numen anyways.
Was definitely puissance hit while I had some mean buffs (celerity/vendetta and karma war blessing). Plus Liam can numen anyways.Maybe so, but that speed AND that damage is very very high, and other than constantly webwhore or whatever you're not getting out of it. Thanks to, amongst other things, crush, manoeuvres like knockdown-stun-on-call, and proning cancelling stance/parry, Nezha doesn't stand much of a chance...eh.
EDIT: Ok, I just realised that's probably celerity.
Unknown2008-08-13 10:11:27
QUOTE(Shiri @ Aug 13 2008, 09:43 AM) 545178
Maybe so, but that speed AND that damage is very very high, and other than constantly webwhore or whatever you're not getting out of it. Thanks to, amongst other things, crush, manoeuvres like knockdown-stun-on-call, and proning cancelling stance/parry, Nezha doesn't stand much of a chance...eh.
EDIT: Ok, I just realised that's probably celerity.
EDIT: Ok, I just realised that's probably celerity.
Celerity and vendetta, faster and more painful.
Unknown2008-08-13 10:11:41
something I've always wondered Why is it Warriors are the only ones that got any real weapon runes?
Esano2008-08-13 10:14:16
Because most other things are covered by this:
CODE
Magic Enhancement Runes:
  - These increase damage done to opponents from abilities that are
    magical. For instance, these increase the damage of a spell that
    causes cold damage, since the spell is magical in nature.
  Great Rune of Mystic Might      :  400 credits (+10% damage)
  Great Rune of Arcane Force      :  800 credits (+15% damage)
  Great Rune of Esoteric Authority :  1600 credits (+20% damage)
  - These increase damage done to opponents from abilities that are
    magical. For instance, these increase the damage of a spell that
    causes cold damage, since the spell is magical in nature.
  Great Rune of Mystic Might      :  400 credits (+10% damage)
  Great Rune of Arcane Force      :  800 credits (+15% damage)
  Great Rune of Esoteric Authority :  1600 credits (+20% damage)
Shiri2008-08-13 10:14:18
QUOTE(krin1 @ Aug 13 2008, 11:11 AM) 545180
something I've always wondered Why is it Warriors are the only ones that got any real weapon runes?
Don't underestimate monk weapon runes, they're not as solid as warrior ones but they're still useful and my performance went up noticeably when I got them.
But you're right, only these classes, primarily warriors, benefit from artifacts so much because their offence is contingent on the things being boosted - a demesne-speeding-up rune would be an equivalent for druids.
