Playing Lusty on a Macbook laptop running OSX. I had a desktop PC with Zmud, but it died a long time ago. Not looking to res that computer, so the Mac is all I have for now.

Currently playing with Nexus, and have done well enough to code aliases and triggers. Well, good enough for hunting on Prime where I don't face many afflictions. Doing many things manually though (like sipping, standing while prone). Attempted combat once or twice in arena/raids, and realized that I won't go far without a more comprehensive system.

Also realized that I don't have the skills to code-- especially with balances.

Looking for a better way. Looking to acquire (whether free or pay through credits) a client/system. I was looking at Avante-Garde 2.0 which runs on MushClient. Is there a Mac-based version of MushClient? Would AV2 work on a Mac version? Is there any system available for Nexus? What's the most effecient and cost effective system available to me?

If you can run Wine on your OSX, you should be able to get MUSHclient running that way. AG2 uses VB Script, which may or may not work properly under Wine, depending on which particular version of Wine you get running. My own scripts use Lua and should work anywhere that MUSHclient works, theoretically. My system is still under development, though it's at least 90% functioning at this point.

I don't know about compatibility but in terms of mushclient systems I think the three main options are avant-garde 2, nezhmet (both the free forum version and the paid one with updates) and Zarquan's system coming in the future. I've used the first two and my reccomendation for speed and curing proficiency go nezhmet, for accessibility go ag2. Try downloading thefree nezhmet, if you work with it, go for that one. (paid version that is)

Hrmm-- Never heard of Wine. I will have to look into that. I suppose a Nexus system would be easiest (though maybe not the best). I've come across Vadi's auto-sipper; though I haven't yet given it an install. Anyone know of any curing scripts available, free or otherwise, for Nexus?

Anything you find for Nexus is going to be limited, at best. It has a lower "ceiling" compared to other clients, meaning you'll run out of room for new triggers and such before you can build a complete combat system. Plus, there's always that possibility that your settings will vanish on you one day (from what I hear).

For information on Wine, I suppose you could start here: http://wiki.winehq.org/MacOSX

Settings get lost with Nexus... way to much
Grouping is also a bit problematic...

Dare I put in a plug for tinyfugue? (http://tinyfugue.sourceforge.net/)

It runs just fine on MacOSX, no need for Wine.
It's more versatile than Nexus.

The big drawback is that it's harder to script in tinyfugue than in Mush/Zmud/Nexus.

EDIT: Also, I'm not aware of any free system for Lusternia, and the TF community here is fairly small, so unless you're looking to code quite a bit yourself, Zarquan's suggestion may be a better option for you.

Dare away!

I've "heard" of TF, but never thought to give it a try. I did try another called Savitar way back, but didn't take to the whole trigger/macro code. Wonder if TF is any easier or harder. Actually, I which "path"-- TF or Wine-- will be easier and more productive in the long run.

Guess there is only one way to find out...

Sounds like TF might be easier on the install, but without a TF coding community, I have a client without a system (which is where I am right now). At least with Wine I may have a shot at using a community supported system like AG. Will give both a try, and may post my results back here.

I know someone on Lusternia uses the Atlantis client for OSX - http://www.riverdark.net/atlantis/, though I hear it's rather slow.

TF will compile on nearly everything and work like a beast, but its main issue is the scripting language itself. While you can do a lot with it over time, the language is clunky and easy to mess up in with var expansion syntax. It also lacks built in data structure support, so you'd have to do that from scratch (though others have, so it's probably available online.) I believe there are Aetolian players who use TF, so you might want to check their forums and see what exists there if you pursue TF.

Or kick Charune/Estarra/Zarquan/Roark/Ethelon/Nezha and co until SOMEONE makes a lusternia specific client with support for most scripts and maybe even a zmud script!

P.S. If mushclient ran zmud but could compile it I would be a happy camper Yes I know Cmud compiles it and no I dont want to use Cmud (I have it, it was free so why not, but would take some convincing).

I tried Atlantis for a few months when I switched over to Mac. It's got a pretty active developer, or it did back then, but as Charune mentioned it tends to run pretty slow, and sometimes just spaz out entirely if you start getting into lots of lines per second (think: group combat).

Good luck with whichever path you try, Janalon!

I've heard of some -very- extensive aetolian systems on TF. It apparently runs smoothly and very fast. But the scripting language is something to get used to.

There's also (for linux) a python plugin for TF. Much better for scripting imo. Also, I haven't noticed TF "scrolling" on me yet, even in heavy group combat spam. Cmud on the other hand... yuck.

Hrm.. At the pestering of Rus, I think ill start looking into a client/system or w/e. I haven't gotten serious with combat at all really due to the fact that reflexes dont work at all for me on nexus. So... I'm looking preferably for a free client/system that is somewhat similar to Nexus so I don't have to re-learn everything. As a last resort I may look into a client/system that costs a reasonable amount.

Forget it. You would have done best to never learn Nexus in the first place.

Well darn.. Didn't know there were other clients when I started. Oh well, guess ill hafta relearn whatever system I try

Sadly, I am defeated by both TF and Wine.

Visited both sites. Saw the suggested OSX Wine page and realized that I was in way over my head. Immediately ran away from Wine and towards TF. DL'ing was easy (though there was some confusion as to whether I should DL the .zip or .tar.gz (the answer is the tar file for Mac).

Didn't offer the Mac'plistic drag-and-drop install. Had to root through various folders and help files to figure out how to open. Maybe I became frustrated, maybe I am lazy. But I made the decision to leave it for another date. I went running away from TF and towards Savitar.

Savitar is a good plug-and-play client with macros and triggers that remind me of Zmud (well, Zmud of back-in-the-day). Realized that whereas this might be a good client, it is without a system; though interestingly enough there was an inquiry about Achea on the Savitar forums.

So, I Googled "savitar lusternia" and came across some interesting links:

http://groups.msn.com/lusternia/freeclients.msnw
MSN Lusty Group: Savitar was listed. $15 for macros (including a clicker and auto-fill in), triggers. NB: for Macs!

But more importantly it listed the Open Source Mudwalker. For the Mac! Aliases, Triggers, Keyboard macros, all scriptable using the Lua programming language. Lua programming language? Does this mean I should be able to add those Lua scripts built for MushClient for Mudwalker?

Lua is mainly an extension language, meaning it's commonly used to extend other applications and make them user-modifiable. The general principles of Lua will be the same from one application to the next, but the interface functions (such as those used to create/modify/etc triggers/aliases/macros/etc) will be different. If the scripts are built fairly well, you should be able to adapt the logic using different underlying interface calls...

Khezar here, from Aetolia...

TinyFugue on Mac is really quite simple, and exactly like on Linux (Windows is another story, but it is possible.)

This link will also help you: http://www.zombii.org/docs/using-tf5/

1. Install the Mac OS X developer tools that came with your installation CD, if you don't already have them installed.
2. Download the .tar.gz version of TinyFugue's source code.
3. Unzip it.
4. Open the Terminal (/Applications/Utilities/Terminal)
5. Follow the instructions in the TinyFugue folder/unix/README, which should be something like the following:
6. In terminal:
6. a. cd
6. b. ./configure
6. c. make
6. d. sudo make install
6. e. Type in your password.
7. When finished, run the program (still in Terminal) with the command tf
8. If you wish, you can use instead tf -n, which will run it without connecting to a server automatically.

After that, you'll probably want to know how to configure TinyFugue...
1. /help commands is very useful.
2. Create a file called tfrc in your home folder, and put your configuration stuff in there.
3. There's a lot more, but there are places online where you can learn about all the goodies:
http://www.zombii.org/docs/using-tf5/
http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/1579/...ntro-1_0a1.html

Good luck, and enjoy!

I've never used Mac, but I'm curious now. Doesn't it have a package manager like linux? Something to easily remove / add programs?

/derail