Long story short, my Elfen Spiritsinger has reached level 70 and is wondering - where's the good bashing now?

I can't go to Astral, and don't have Trans Resilience (yet, hopefully I'll get some Bardic credits). I have about 3500 health now, with a life blessing. Influencing the lucidians at Arthar'rt is great exp, but I don't want to kill them as I want to complete the quest first. Everything else I considered is either lame exp (due to being aimed at lower levels), or decent exp, but not really viable (e.g. the freaks in the Arthar'rt caves, hard-hitting little buggers). I'm very tempted to go explore the Undervault, but I'm well aware of the fact that, squishy as I am, I'd be dead within seconds of entering.

So, I turn to you! I'd really appreciate any light you can shed on the matter. Oh, and if you can recommend any other good place for influencing (besides Tosha, which I find inferior to Arthar'rt), that'd be awesome.

The only thing you should be watching out for in UV are cavefishers and adoraths. As for influencing, Tosha got me to level 80+ just from influencing, along with a fat load of gold.

Undervault isn't so bad. Moiraine(squishy human monk) was bashing in there since about level thirty. Fishers got me sometimes, but not often.

@Alacardael: Both those aren't so bad. The krakens, though, they hurt.

If you don't like dealing with the freaks, you're going to loathe fishers. For that matter, killing the astrologers is tougher than fighting the freaks too.

I'd probably do a loop of more manageable areas. Snow valley (you can shield against the cats, can turn in for gold), hit the orcs (also turn in for gold), Balach swamp (turn in gators for gold), Aslaran/Krokani (good luck finding them not bashed out and camped), Nagaradja and Nagakali (can turn in for gold, though again, if you don't like freaks, you'll want to leave the nagameth on the bottom level alone), and Versavir. While running the loop, collect bards, scholars, and maybe pilgrims.

Remember, also, that nothing is going to give you the relative gain that you enjoyed through the 50's and such. Even if you were bashing things that you find too hard now, the bashing would be meaningfully slower than it was just 10 circles ago.

ALL those turn in for gold? Damn I wish I knew this.

My circuit used to be... Tosha, Snow Valley + scaling the mountain to the cave...which you can't do, and the Dracnari's where the wyvern eggs are. Pretty decent, Tosha will be respawned by the time you return. Really good gold too!

If you're observant, there's a lot of things you don't think about that you can hand in. Quite a lot of the UV can be handed in for gold now, you just have to find the areas.

When I bashed my druid up, I would run Balach, Verasavir, and Spectre Isle.

As for UV, I've been bashing kephera since my upper level 50s till now (I'm level 73). As long as you go one at a time, you shouldn't have a problem, even with inept resilience. You have to be careful because they move. Don't think you can bash them though since you're a Seren, and I've heard illithoid are much harder.

If you want to bash the tunnels, the most annoying thing in the UV is the adoraths IMO. There are not enough kraken around so I rarely, if ever, run into them, and the fishers are only annoying if there are 3+ in the same room and they think it is funny to break your limbs all at the same time. Other than that, its mostly light bashing .

I don't think Kracken are aggro anyway.

Yeah, adoraths can be annoying if you accidently run into a room full of them on the lake. Be sure to squint. Fishers are deadly if you get attacked by a pair of them, but that rarely ever happens.

They can be.

They're like thorn beasts, sometimes aggro, sometimes not.

I think a couple other places of note for 70's would be Hifarae Hills (spawns in the nw caves, the quest, the snakes and grouses), tiger sharks (which can be turned in for gold if some pooface doesn't kill all the merians in Bondero Bay), and Verasavir Valley. Depending on how confident you are, unlinked astral mobs might be fun.

The most important piece of advice I can give is "don't die", because that will obviously set you back xp, but if you think about it, you lose the xp you've gained, but then waste time gaining it again. Don't be afraid to bash "below your level". I'm lvl88 and still kill krokani, tiger sharks, hifarae spawn, and the like (mostly for the gold, but they're still 0.01%xp each and I can do them nosip as a loboshigaru warrior). That said, you might keep looking at safe investments like Toronada and rockeaters.

But really, lvl70-80 sucked. A lot. It's kind of a grey area in bashing, since you can't quite kill linked astral or the hard-hitters in the UV and elsewhere, but just about everything else felt insufficient. Don't worry, keep plugging away and you'll be fine.

You can do linked Astral and fishers and adoraths and such at 78 or 79.

If you get any sort of message from a kraken when entering the room they will attack you, but they are incredibly slow, and as long as you don't linger, you can get away without a scratch.

I usually numen when going through the undervault roads, just to be safe, although I can handle up to 3 fishers. Rarely is there a cluster of more.

As for bashing, you will want a harmony blessing constantly at this point, so pick a God you want to start offering to so you can keep up with the karma spending. Nothing past level 70 is as good as it was in the 50s, so don't expect to be getting 1-2% for everything. Start expecting .1% or less. A lot of people's downfall is that they kill something and only get .02% from it, but that isn't that bad at all (for someone who's in the 90s, at least. If that's the case and you're only level 75 you're doing something wrong.)

Also, I think someone said this before: but hunt the easier stuff. Don't waste you time in Shallamurine, for example. You're more likely to die and pray and those things would take you too long to kill. Time is of the essence. You might make 2% per priestess you kill, but you can only kill, say, 6 of them, and it takes you almost an hour to do so, when you could have done village quests and inner sea quests and hunted the Sea of Despair (which is -excellent- for hunting at lower levels, provided you take the right precautions if you're seren/celestian) and earned 20%+ in half the time, you were dilly dallying around.

Also, at this point, you will want to find a hunting buddy. It makes it a lot easier.

Trying to do linked Astral at those levels, unless you have very high con, sounds very likely to get you killed more often than not.

Also do quinotaurs once you get above level 75. Nice xp, no afflictions or knockdown, just a lot of damage.

This is a good idea, no matter what level.

Just don't pick Dylara.. She will steal your criticals and die to Grand Cenobites. Either that or get you killed by cave fishers. She is evil.





Besides I need her for my hunting partner.

I did scorpions as a Nekotai Illithoid, so yes, very good con and all the shrugging really helped.

Everyone is so mean to me today.

That's because of how unlikable you are. It says so here in your personnel file: Unlikable. Liked by no one. A bitter, unlikable loner whose passing shall not be mourned. 'Shall not be mourned.' That's exactly what it says. Very formal. Very official. It also says you are emo, so that's funny, too.

And that thing you broke? It's the fluid catalytic cracking unit. It made shoes for orphans. Nice job breaking it, hero.

Please note that the above is in massive sarcasm quotes and that Dylara is actually a very nice person.

I love you.

Anyway, thanks for the great and plentiful advice, everyone! I'll put it all to good use. In the meantime, you remember those times when you were influencing Tosha, and earned like 20%, only to accidentally use your "M2" alias instead of "BEG2" in a room with 8 monks who then proceed to rape you and take away that 20%?
Remember having it happen twice in one day, in the same room, with the same amount of monks?

Coincidence? *ponder*

I did that on accident with my mag alt before I had separate mark and target highlighters, and I was using it to highlight beggars because my brain was seriously sleep deprived and I must have half-blacked out from sleep and landed on my attack alias because I suddenly got smacked down by.... many beggars. And then got laughed at on CT...

A word of advice: Make separate triggers for highlighting your attacks target and a general highlight marker.