Addicted?

by Fain

Back to The Real World.

Fain2008-11-13 15:31:33
This is quite an entertaining article.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/technology/2008...o_warcraft.html

What I found particularly interesting was the suggestion that part of the addictiveness of a virtual world is the sense in which you can be more successful there than in real life. Do we agree?

Edit: actually, far more interesting than the article itself are the comments beneath. WoW players seem to fall very definitely in two camps: those who admit that there is a danger but have either (1) stopped playing or (2) beaten the compulsion; and those who deny altogether that there is a danger.
Desitrus2008-11-13 15:46:08
This was posted on an internal forum in one of the power guilds I belong to, where we all bitch about how much we hate the games we play because that's the kind of vicious cycle we know and love.

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The unfortunate status of the MMO market is as follows:

WoW houses approximately 12 million players now, 9 million of which are on some level (of the B. F. Skinner model of addiction) psychologically addicted to World of Warcraft ( Source: http://lfpress.ca/newsstand/News/Local/200...296301-sun.html ). Beyond this, there's also the new theories flying around regarding remote personality disorder and addictions to virtual property compounding the issue. Most of these players will remain addicted until they do what the majority of Relentless, Death and Taxes, Team Pandemic, or other notables have done and lose the positive reinforcement they've come to gain from WoW.

Seeing as losing the positive reinforcement from WoW generally takes mastering a class, skill, pvp, pve, or some other aspect of the game, most players will remain, on some level, addicted to World of Warcraft. This being said, ask yourself, how many times have you quit and reactivated WoW?

The retention rating of customers on World of Warcraft is about 96%, which means that 96% of players generally do not cancel their account, or if they do cancel their account, it is reactivated within 3 months. Polls show that 68% of those who left WoW when AoC came out have returned, and 46% of those who left WoW when Warhammer came out have returned (Source: http://kotaku.com/5078328/aoc-and-war-play...back-to-azeroth ).
Unknown2008-11-13 18:06:42
Ouch, this hits home. Was pretty much engaged and I started playing WoW casually with some pals, and my significant other decided to play. Fun times for a month or two, but I was too casual at it, didn't powerlevel and, as each night wore down, would prod for other types of games (if you get my drift wink.gif ). The mate, on the other hand, was so focused in the game - I'd get yelled at if I tried to be affectionate! Eventually things fell apart.

One thing to remember, though, is that addiction to games serves only as a catalyst. I firmly believe if there are latent issues, other stimuli will bring them up up at a later date even if gaming is avoided - games just magnify the problems and push them forwards more quickly, be that relationship issues, social anxiety, emotional states, so on, so forth.
Unknown2008-11-13 18:18:55
I'm very much addicted to Lusternia because I'm ever so much more successful. Not that I'm a failure IRL or anything, mind you, but it's fun to gain money from doing simple tasks, be treated like royalty because you're more experienced than others, or fight a fierce battle and come out victorious.

Personally, I try to use the game's social aspects to better myself. I have anger management issues. I'm very impatient sometimes to the point of being downright rude. In the game, I do my best to remain humble (getting harder with each new artifact, heh) and to be kind to others in sharing my wealth and knowledge. So, these games are not always a bad thing.
Desitrus2008-11-13 18:18:56
QUOTE(Sadhyra @ Nov 13 2008, 12:06 PM) 581912
Ouch, this hits home. Was pretty much engaged and I started playing WoW casually with some pals, and my significant other decided to play. Fun times for a month or two, but I was too casual at it, didn't powerlevel and, as each night wore down, would prod for other types of games (if you get my drift wink.gif ). The mate, on the other hand, was so focused in the game - I'd get yelled at if I tried to be affectionate! Eventually things fell apart.

One thing to remember, though, is that addiction to games serves only as a catalyst. I firmly believe if there are latent issues, other stimuli will bring them up up at a later date even if gaming is avoided - games just magnify the problems and push them forwards more quickly, be that relationship issues, social anxiety, emotional states, so on, so forth.


Addiction can and will override emotion though.
Daganev2008-11-13 18:37:33
QUOTE(Fain @ Nov 13 2008, 07:31 AM) 581843
What I found particularly interesting was the suggestion that part of the addictiveness of a virtual world is the sense in which you can be more successful there than in real life. Do we agree?


I do.

I actually joined the board of my synogague to keep me away from Lusternia, so it would no occupy my mind all the time. (and from the thought of playing other muds)

It worked perfectly.

It turns out I just have an addiction to important decision making tongue.gif
Diamondais2008-11-13 18:40:22
Going to show this to my friends.
Desitrus2008-11-13 18:52:47
QUOTE(diamondais @ Nov 13 2008, 12:40 PM) 581937
Going to show this to my friends.


Show it to your camel buddy.

Edit: This might seem racially charged, but it is in fact sexually charged as it has nothing to do with nationality and everything to do with camel physiology.

The more you know .-+=*
Unknown2008-11-13 21:37:36
QUOTE(Desitrus @ Nov 13 2008, 10:18 AM) 581918
Addiction can and will override emotion though.

I think if you've the type of personality that will get "hooked" there are probably many other things you can cite as having been addicting or potentially will be addicting.
Diamondais2008-11-13 21:41:08
QUOTE(Desitrus @ Nov 13 2008, 01:52 PM) 581949
Show it to your camel buddy.

Edit: This might seem racially charged, but it is in fact sexually charged as it has nothing to do with nationality and everything to do with camel physiology.

The more you know .-+=*

He is one of the ones that is addicted. nyah.gif
Unknown2008-11-13 21:56:03
I find it hard to believe you can become severely addicted to a video game. I guess it just seems silly and unrealistic until you find yourself in that position. wink.gif
I'm a smoker though. sad.gif
Ilyarin2008-11-13 22:00:55
I was addicted to Lusternia. I broke through. Yay! Looking back at those years has made me realise just how terrible addiction is, and the blindness you have to your own addiction until you come out the other side. I would always reaffirm myself that I was not addicted by embracing menial challenges like, "I won't play Lusternia for x hours/days/weeks." However, nothing would have changed after that time was up other than the fact I would have a few messages piled up and a few extra news posts to read and catch up on. I'm glad to be past that now, I'm moderately confident that if I returned to play I would be able to do it in a reasonable manner.
Unknown2008-11-13 22:07:11
At this point in my life, I'm addicted to Lusternia. I can freely admit it.

I'd have to agree with the article, that it lets you be more successful than real life, or lets you feel like you are at the very least. But that's not the main reason I play.

The very main reason I play is because I'm very antisocial IRL, and find that in Lusternia, there's plenty of people, set laws that are almost impossible to cheat, and therefore, plenty of chances to make friends in many different ways.
Daganev2008-11-13 22:20:29
QUOTE(Sadhyra @ Nov 13 2008, 01:37 PM) 582017
I think if you've the type of personality that will get "hooked" there are probably many other things you can cite as having been addicting or potentially will be addicting.


Not the same way as virtual worlds though. It's very different. (but at the same time, its not the same as being addicted to Alcohol) That is , I b elieve that you can just quit, you actually have to replace the addiction with something else.
Furien2008-11-13 22:21:40
Maybe two days after my first Kara raid in WoW (where I even got my T4 gloves, lawl), my computer caught a blue screen of death and we had to reinstall windows.

I didn't reinstall WoW. I didn't get the subscription renewed. A week later, I made sure it was canceled. Haven't looked back since.

Real life has started taking priority over MMOs in general, which I'm extremely thankful for. Friends are being made, grades are coming up, outside is getting bearable.
Shaddus2008-11-13 23:14:58
I have to agree, and I didn't even read the article.
IRL, I'm polite, quite nice, and usually quite respectful of authority, to the point of letting other people run over me. Most of my characters enjoy battle, and I don't.
Stangmar2008-11-14 06:58:45
I was hooked on lusternia pretty badly during my freshman and sophomore years in high school. My grades suffered as a result. Eventually I got kind of bored, and only maintained short bursts of activity, and now I rarely log in anymore, and my grades have recovered. I can imagine WoW is probably 10x worse. I've never touched it, and I never will. My roommates all play it for hours upon hours.
Diamondais2008-11-14 13:50:26
Heard about someone in WoW who was dropping out of school and quitting their job just so they could play. rolleyes.gif

I loved my one friends reaction; That person doesn't deserve to live.
Ilyarin2008-11-14 13:58:11
I think that phrase is terrible. I agree with the sentiment entirely (that he should do something fulfilling with his life), but it's an absolutely abhorrent thing to say. :|