Afflictions that change the way curing works

by Trakis

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Trakis2008-11-13 15:33:20
Hi, all. I've been looking at the afflictions, and trying to identify the afflictions that change the way afflictions are cured. I'm going to call them "special afflictions", collectively.

Special afflictions would be afflictions like Aeon or Choke, because when you have them, the way you send commands to cure are altered drastically. With Aeon, specifically, you can only send one command at a time, for example.

Anorexia, on the other hand, is not a special affliction. Even though it prevents multiple methods of curing (sip, eat), the curing process is still more or less the same.

So far, I've identified: Aeon, Blackout, Choke, Asleep, and Sap as "special" afflictions. Are there any that I'm missing?
Shiri2008-11-14 04:30:13
If you're counting asleep and choke you might as well count stun and unconscious.

EDIT: Also scarab, and to some extent bedevil/aurawarp (I forget which is which)
Unknown2008-11-14 04:54:07
I don't know what class you are, but if you're using these as a means of preventing your queues from firing and your class as a delayed insta kill where you have to do nothing for a set period of time, you may want to include it as a "special affliction" that prevents curing.
Esano2008-11-14 08:17:50
Might as well add octave. Not exactly an affliction, but it prevents auric cures (horehound + focus spirit IIRC, but not allheale/green/gedulah). I think they still take balance, too. I'd separate it from anorexia and the like because, as I said, it's not exactly an affliction - it's a room effect, and you are temporarily protected from it by deafness.

But then again, it's up to you!
Trakis2008-11-14 13:48:21
Thanks for the help so far, everyone. So far, I have:

-Octave as a room-wide effect that doesn't show up under diagnose, but prevents horehound and focus spirit. How do you know the room is affected by Octave?
-Stun and unconsciousness are both considered 'special'. I don't know much about unconsciusness though - what causes it and what does it do?

Shiri: Could you please be more specific about bedevil/aurawarp/scarab? I don't know anything about any of those afflictions.

Deschain: I'm a guardian, and I do have a pause function coded. Thanks, though!
Shiri2008-11-14 13:59:27
QUOTE(Trakis @ Nov 14 2008, 01:48 PM) 582305
-Octave as a room-wide effect that doesn't show up under diagnose, but prevents horehound and focus spirit. How do you know the room is affected by Octave?

There's a message when they cast it, there's a special message when you try to focus spirit or eat your foods. Not sure if there's a QL line.

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-Stun and unconsciousness are both considered 'special'. I don't know much about unconsciusness though - what causes it and what does it do?
Unconsciousness is like the worst parts of sleep and stun. You can't see much of anything, like sleep, and you can't do anything and have to wait, like stun. It's caused by basically every Mag guild and no one else - when you get hungry enough you pass out, and when you hit a ninjakari using byahkari you pass out, and when a ninjakari constricts you you pass out. You wake up on damage from byahkari and constrict, not 100% sure if it applies to hunger.

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Shiri: Could you please be more specific about bedevil/aurawarp/scarab? I don't know anything about any of those afflictions.

Scarab is a not-often-used BT aff. It causes uncurable anorexia in brief bursts over a 60s or something it afflicts you. There are messages for when you can't eat and when you can eat again.
Whichever healer aff I mean stops you eating and applying (not sure about sipping, I think sipping is ok.) It's a reishi cure, but curing it only works in the same room as the healer (I'm not sure if you can eat outside the healer's room, better check it.) I have no idea what the other healer aff does though. Or if it's even still an aff. Most of the healers in the game pick it because they don't -want- to fight (or because they think they'll be useful curing other people instead of fighting properly.)
Trakis2008-11-14 14:51:32
Alright. I will definitely look into Octave to try to capture it when walking in the room.

How should it be handled, though? It seems like the way to handle Octave is to just maintain deafness.

Scarab... an intermittent anorexia seems crappy. I'll just add it as a normal affliction, and prevent/unprevent eating.
Casilu2008-11-14 19:46:26
QUOTE(Trakis @ Nov 14 2008, 06:51 AM) 582316
How should it be handled, though? It seems like the way to handle Octave is to just maintain deafness.


Not really possible, because any bard worth their salt will immediately blanknote you. Which means, allheale, vial, and those other cures are your best bet to keep auric afflictions down.
Ardmore2008-11-14 20:16:26
Make a eat earwort and leave the room, or gust the bard, though that doesn't drop Octave unless they don't return for a few seconds (I think... maybe that's perfectfifth).
Casilu2008-11-14 20:18:50
QUOTE(Ardmore @ Nov 14 2008, 12:16 PM) 582403
Make a eat earwort and leave the room, or gust the bard, though that doesn't drop Octave unless they don't return for a few seconds (I think... maybe that's perfectfifth).


That's perfect fifth. I think octave is instant.
Lekius2008-11-15 02:18:22
Octave fades if the bard leaves the room, and it fades instantly, or at least the bard gets the "You cease maintaining the maestoso(octave)" line when you leave.
Trakis2008-11-16 03:31:08
Alright, so:

Octave - Not an affliction, but a room-wide effect that prevents certain cures. After successfully gusting a bard out of the room, you can assume the effect is gone.

What about blanknote? That's kind of like a stun that prevents certain cures from being used?
Esano2008-11-16 04:33:20
QUOTE(Trakis @ Nov 16 2008, 02:31 PM) 582683
Alright, so:

Octave - Not an affliction, but a room-wide effect that prevents certain cures. After successfully gusting a bard out of the room, you can assume the effect is gone.

What about blanknote? That's kind of like a stun that prevents certain cures from being used?

Blanknote:

Only works if you're deaf.

Removes deafness+truehearing.

Stuns you (2sec?)

In addition, it gives you the affliction "Under the effect of a blank note." on diagnose or similar, commonly called earache. This prevents you from using earwort to gain deafness+truehearing until it vanishes.