Nekotai, and getting good at it

by Yoruk

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Yoruk2009-03-25 21:09:20
So I'm here procrastinating Calculus, as well as annoyed that i currently am not that great at combat. I'm not sure if it's my inability to cure or administer good strategies or maybe even just not having enough lessons in anything. (I have nothing in Resilience or magic or lowmagic + I'm illithoid. so anything magic = scream.gif )

I just need to know what is holding me back. I think I'm like currently the only psymet monk I've ever seen actually fighting. And i don't mind that, psymet's cool. I've been fighting decently i guess. I usually beat others around my might and higher for certain archetypes. But that's only solo, if i get ganked by two or more persons I'm done. And I've really only killed others with help or in the arena. Sooo....yeah. Any positive advice? I'm trans Nekotai, myth psymet and expert stealth i think.

Thanks =]


(Sidd, don't reply saying I'm good. I tried my BEST not to be pessimistic here. Like i said, looking for positive advice about where to go from here. I'm not giving up! content.gif )
Casilu2009-03-25 21:12:18
QUOTE (Yoruk @ Mar 25 2009, 02:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So I'm here procrastinating Calculus, as well as annoyed that i currently am not that great at combat. I'm not sure if it's my inability to cure or administer good strategies or maybe even just not having enough lessons in anything. (I have nothing in Resilience or magic or lowmagic + I'm illithoid. so anything magic = scream.gif )

I just need to know what is holding me back. I think I'm like currently the only psymet monk I've ever seen actually fighting. And i don't mind that, psymet's cool. I've been fighting decently i guess. I usually beat others around my might and higher for certain archetypes. But that's only solo, if i get ganked by two or more persons I'm done. And I've really only killed others with help or in the arena. Sooo....yeah. Any positive advice? I'm trans Nekotai, myth psymet and expert stealth i think.

Thanks =]


(Sidd, don't reply saying I'm good. I tried my BEST not to be pessimistic here. Like i said, looking for positive advice about where to go from here. I'm not giving up! content.gif )


I was Psymet, if you know what you're doing, you're a tank.
Desitrus2009-03-25 22:16:24
QUOTE (casilu @ Mar 25 2009, 04:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I was Psymet, if you know what you're doing, you're a tank.


So that makes you some sort of electric car?
Casilu2009-03-25 22:36:21
QUOTE (Desitrus @ Mar 25 2009, 03:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So that makes you some sort of electric car?


Hey, when I was Lobo, I could take a pretty decent beating. Not so much a tank, more like a H1 or an SUV.
Celina2009-03-25 23:02:39
QUOTE (casilu @ Mar 25 2009, 05:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hey, when I was Lobo, I could take a pretty decent beating. Not so much a tank, more like a H1 or an SUV.


Incredibly inefficient and prone to rolling over?
Casilu2009-03-25 23:15:26
QUOTE (Celina @ Mar 25 2009, 04:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Incredibly inefficient and prone to rolling over?


Oh, extremely inefficient and I am a Lobo, so rolling over isn't an issue. Just crash into one, you'll see what I'm talking about.
Desitrus2009-03-25 23:42:04
QUOTE (casilu @ Mar 25 2009, 06:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Oh, extremely inefficient and I am a Lobo, so rolling over isn't an issue. Just crash into one, you'll see what I'm talking about.


Crash... into meeeeeee BAYYYYYYY BAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

AND I Co... oh that probably isn't appropriate given some of the posts lately.
Ashteru2009-03-26 00:18:25
QUOTE (Desitrus @ Mar 26 2009, 12:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Crash... into meeeeeee BAYYYYYYY BAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

AND I Co... oh that probably isn't appropriate given some of the posts lately.

I..am not sure if you are talking about the song I think you are talking about.
Celina2009-03-26 02:04:47
QUOTE (Desitrus @ Mar 25 2009, 06:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Crash... into meeeeeee BAYYYYYYY BAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

AND I Co... oh that probably isn't appropriate given some of the posts lately.


icanthearyou.gif
Shaddus2009-03-26 03:38:50
QUOTE (Celina @ Mar 25 2009, 09:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
icanthearyou.gif

Dave Mathews FTW.
Gero2009-03-26 08:24:31
QUOTE (Shaddus Mes'ard @ Mar 25 2009, 08:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Dave Mathews FTL.


Fixed dazed.gif
Shaddus2009-03-26 11:04:46
QUOTE (Shaddus Mes'ard @ Mar 25 2009, 10:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Gero FTL.

Re-fixed.
Jack2009-03-26 13:02:46
man you guys are like the least helpful people ever
Unknown2009-03-26 18:25:00
You're insane Casilu, you don't need to know what you're doing at all to be a tank as a Lobo, just get enchanted robes and you no longer die.

Harmony helps too, because I'm currently running around with level 8 health regeneration. Ha ha ha.
Casilu2009-03-26 18:29:55
QUOTE (Kyriel @ Mar 26 2009, 11:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You're insane Casilu, you don't need to know what you're doing at all to be a tank as a Lobo, just get enchanted robes and you no longer die.

Harmony helps too, because I'm currently running around with level 8 health regeneration. Ha ha ha.


Yeah, you do when you're fighting more than one person. Enchanted robes don't make much of a difference when you have two warriors beating on you.
Unknown2009-03-26 18:40:20
Yeah being a tank means more than surviving while bashing on weevils.
Yoruk2009-03-26 19:14:45
o.0

Thanks guys...your opinions have been so helpful.
heheh
Unknown2009-03-26 20:12:35
The good advice will pour in when the right people notice the topic, I think. But here's my two cents:

As for curing, if you don't have a curing system, get one pronto. The selection depends on which client you're on, MUSH is currently best represented, with Treant and AG 2.0. Studying your opponents is also important, and the more you fight the better you'll get at recognizing alarming situations. Also, I doubt anyone your might can really expect to beat/survive two people who know what they're doing ganking you, so just learn to run!

As for lessons, you should probably post your AB to get advice on what to invest in. (And start writing Bardics/drawing Artisanals.)

Also, yeah, strategies are important, and again, you'll flesh them out in time and with experience. However, since monks should be getting fixed soon (we've been saying that "soon" for months now...), you'll probably have to make up new strategies all over again, so that sucks. Can't give any monk-specific advice since I've never been one, so that's all from me.
Isuka2009-03-26 20:22:30
Nekotai combat is very linear. You need to get 5 momentum, fast. Abandon everything else and make sure everything you do has a speed mod on it. Afflictions before 5 momentum generally aren't worth it. Once you get five, use a slitlock form with nekcree, nekreve, shocree and use senso/dulak on it, boosted. Unless you're unlucky, you'll probably stick a lock, then kaife your momentum back to five and start stacking higher momentum afflictions until they cure. Or, if you feel lucky, envenom a crotamine dart beforehand, kaife back to five momentum, and finalsting.
Sidd2009-03-26 23:32:50
heh, I disagree with Isuka, but I'll tell you in game