Comic book

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Unknown2009-09-09 22:27:15
Would I submit a comic book to Artisanals or Bardics, if I were to make one?
Estarra2009-09-09 23:03:49
QUOTE (Greleag @ Sep 9 2009, 03:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Would I submit a comic book to Artisanals or Bardics, if I were to make one?


Artisanal--you can only submit text in bardics--unless your comic is all in ascii!
Tervic2009-09-09 23:05:19
QUOTE (Estarra @ Sep 9 2009, 04:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Artisanal--you can only submit text in bardics--unless your comic is all in ascii!


Don't tempt me.
Estarra2009-09-09 23:06:59
QUOTE (Tervic @ Sep 9 2009, 04:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Don't tempt me.


Actually, if you are really good at ascii art, let me know!
Unknown2009-09-10 00:06:05
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Unknown2009-09-10 00:06:37
Edit: screwed up, will test later.

But uh, woo comics.
Tervic2009-09-10 00:08:22
I'm willing to bet that someone used

http://www.figlet.org/
wrapped in
http://www.network-science.de/ascii/

to make the Lusternia login logo.

Also, about 2 minutes of googlesearching came up with
http://www.glassgiant.com/ascii/

for converting jpg images into ascii art. It actually works quite well! I ran it on Estarra's forum avatar, and it was certainly recognizable at the end of the process.

Let's see if anyone recognizes this little dude...

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As a side note, it took me longer to get the damn thing to properly display here than it did to generate the image.
Tervic2009-09-10 00:12:40
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Aheeheehee, this is too much fun.
Unknown2009-09-10 03:19:43
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Edit 1:
Hrm, it looked better when it was generated

Edit 2:
Oh, and the bottom looks funny because it tried to enlarge a duplicate of the image in the transparent locations of the Gif image that is my avatar.

Edit 3:
Darn it Tervic, now I'm hooked too.
Lorina2009-09-11 04:14:36
Holy crap this is fun!!
Daganev2009-09-11 04:46:08
back on the 2400 baud modem, I remember people passing around "ascii porn"

But good ascii art doesn't take up so much space.

My favorite has always been Joan Stark:
http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/7373/




Unknown2009-09-13 21:16:25
What font do bardics use?

Also, my first attempt at a cover:

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Unknown2009-09-13 21:41:29
It looks like Courier New.
Estarra2009-09-13 21:43:05
QUOTE (daganev @ Sep 10 2009, 09:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
But good ascii art doesn't take up so much space.

My favorite has always been Joan Stark:
http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/7373/


Yeah, these are exactly the type of simple ascii pics I'm interested in (not those 'conversions' type ascii pics).
Fania2009-09-14 04:15:28
QUOTE (daganev @ Sep 10 2009, 09:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
back on the 2400 baud modem, I remember people passing around "ascii porn"


Oh yeah I found some of that in mah guild hall. Naked woman.

The hardest part about Ascii art for the bardics is that you have to fill all the space
you have to make the entire thing in a square or the picture doesn't make sense.