So I switched from Telekensis as it wasn't to my liking. I was wondering if anyone out there had
some tips on Dreamweaving for combat. Generally what motes to embed and how many of them because they all don't go off at the same time. Also I think I used to hit health pretty hard when I threw them a sleep so they took all the damage but that was my only save for out of dream form combat. Currently if you don't have a mana attack using eternalsleep will not be viable outside of dreamform. I was hoping some people had some ideas for out of body dream form combat. Thanks!

In dreambody you just snoop on people and help other combatants by spamming void. You can't actually fight people with dreambody.

but out side of dreambody?

Blackout motes are useful, can last 8-12 seconds. People will always eat kafe after motes so you need to set up using narcolepsy or daydreaming motes carefully, though you can usually get one tic off with amnesia or epilepsy. I have no clue at all how these mesh with mage abilities.

Getting someone down to badly needing sleep basically forces them out of the fight for awhile... well, sort of. As long as they keep metawake on it's not an awful hindrance. A pyromancer meld with blackout motes embedded would be vicious in a group fight, but I don't know enough about building burn levels to know if you'd be able to kill with it one on one.

When we sparred you used point staff a lot. Don't! You'd might as well spend your balance kicking someone.

I always thought a dreamweaving pyromancer would be a nasty thing in a meld. With the narcolepsy, deep sleep, blackout, sleep mist you have the potential to burn them down quickly. TK just works better because you have really good burst damage and you are not limited to your meld.

The problem is deepsleep is pretty much stopped by metawake. If I could get the target to stay sleeping I could do a lot of nasty things like staff/claws. How does dreamweaving help a pyro meld keep up with burn levels?

Anything that causes damage will wake them to begin with, in pyro meld that is just about everything, so you aren't going to keep them asleep. You can however keep them falling asleep.

Will blackout mask twirl staff so they won't cure the burn level?

Even if it does, the next time you increase their burn level (say, passively via your demense) they will instantly know at what level their burns are at.

I would be interested to know if there are any Dreamweaving Aeromancers out there, and if the skills are complementary at all.

Comments?

I don't mean to hijack your thread, just wondering while we're on the topic...

I happen to be a dreamweaver pyromancer if it makes any difference.

Dreamweaving isn't very complementary with mage skills in general, it's much better for druids. Although theoretically eternalsleep might work okay in some cases.

Well, without a mana attack. Which I very much lack I won't be able to knock anyone down to 50 percent mana. Id have to use Eternal sleep in dreamform.

I am completely ok with hijacking Dy's thread.

At least one, and no they are not. Not even a little bit. At all. Period. I'm a little bitter about it.

Not that I was the best combatant in the first place, but I could use blackout and sleep and rubble to hold people in place long enough for a chasm as a geo. Now what do I have? Blackout miasma? People just diag on blackout cure anyway. Same for blizzard. Narcolepsy and deepsleep are destroyed by metawake, and there's not even anything useful I can do if I get them to sleep anyway. Overwhelming them with afflictions doesn't work. I can only get one affliction through a punctured aura before it's cured, or two if I spend 1 power and am not being hindered at all. The demesne is only adding freeze and miasma's mind affliction, which falls about six afflictions (this is just a guess, I'm not really counting) short of the pyro demesne. A masked confusion would work well with beast epilepsy and the epilepy mote, except that rainbowclouds only triggers when someone moves, and nobody runs around while blacked out. Thunderbolt just does minimal damage, which isn't going to kill anyone and will just wake them up early if I do manage to strip kafe and catch them with metawake off. Eternalsleep remains impossible to pull off. Unless there's some amazing hidden combination that I'm just to stupid to see, (in which case, I would LOVE for you to prove me wrong) I should just go psionic.

Also, Shamarah is so VERY wrong. Eternalsleep is so bad it makes me want to cry blood.

I was just theorycrafting because I was thinking about how much mana it takes to clot away claws, but then I realized that it's only really a problem in conjunction with psyvamp/mindblast, so yeah, never mind.

Hopefully one day we'll get our Redmasque/Evenblade equivalents in Phantasms.

I've decided to go ahead and give Dreamweaving a try. Xanfinro, we can work on ways to make it better in-game, if you want.

Just glancing at the skillset, do embedded motes only fire on punctured aura targets, or any enemy?

Any. And mindsoothe motes will hit you and allies.

That sounds pretty good, really. I was expecting to have to use punctured aura in my demesne.

I think there are possibilities here.