What CAN'T you cure with Healing?

by Unknown

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Unknown2010-09-10 22:36:20
So I've gathered you can't cure timewarp/temporary insanity. It stands to reason other types of stacking afflictions are also outside of Healing's scope (burst vessels, cloud coils, the Ninja loops) although with some of them I'm not entirely sure why.

So what else can you not cure with Healing? I'm having a hard time figuring out if I can't cure something, or I'm just trying to use the wrong category (at least a couple of the healinglist groups are swapped from what they actually are). Edit: For example, clumsiness is cured by kombu or CURE ME NERVOUS. However, NERVOUS also cures hemiplegy (supposedly) while kombu doesn't. To cure hemiplegy with an herb, you have to smoke myrtle.

Also, is there a more useful list somewhere than the LoreWiki? It appears to be missing lots of little tidbits about what each category actually heals. Or are they literally identical to using the relevant herb/salve/purgative without the couple afflictions that Healing can't cure?
Lawliet2010-09-11 00:33:36
You can cure timewarp and temporaryinsanity with healing, it's just not listed in the relevent skills.

As for what you can't cure, You can't cure bursts (I think) and you can't cure things that require speicifc cures or just to wait for time, so phantasms/glamours, astrology spheres, things like that.

Edit: Yes, it can take a little while to get used to where and how things are cured, you'll learn it eventually.

Unknown2010-09-11 01:20:58
Well, CURE ME CURSES cures TimeWarp (and presumably TemporaryInsanity, although it might be one of the other categories like Neurosis or Mania).

I'm trying to determine if HEAL ME removes a vessel or not, but haven't been able to find a TK mage yet.

I have a new question though. Does bedevil swap afflictions in a specific pattern? If I give myself Aeon with Bedevil, it gives me a broken nose, which cures into powersink, which cures back into broken nose. I didn't get to test further because the powersink left me without the ability to clot the bleeding from broken nose. My initial hunch is that you can determine which afflictions someone will get based on what they start with, which is probably a good thing as long as some afflictions link into more relevant afflictions than just a broken nose.

As I test this further I'll compile my findings, but I'm still hoping that someone has already tested some of these things given that the skillset is 6 years old, and the revamped version is still like 3-4 years ago.
Lawliet2010-09-11 01:50:51
This should answer your question about bursts:

Report #338 Skillset: Healing Skill: Blood
Guild: Celestines Status: Rejected Apr 2010
Problem: Currently, Telekinesis induced Burst Blood Vessels, may only be cured by sipping Health and Eating Sparkleberry/or herb with Sparkleberry effect. We feel it is odd that a Skillset devoted entirely to curing is unable to cure this.
Unknown2010-09-12 07:00:03
Well, my hunch was correct but was actually even less exciting than I'd hoped. Bedevil doesn't have a set pattern for turning one affliction into another, it turns specific cures into afflictions.

I found this in Treant.

QUOTE
= function () affs:add_queue("hypochondria") end,
= function () affs:add_queue("impatience") end,
= function () affs:add_queue("recklessness") end,
= function () affs:add_queue("broken_nose") end,
= function () affs:add_queue("hemophilia") end,
= function () affs:add_queue("slickness") end,
= function () affs:add_queue("confusion") end,
= function () affs:limb_queue("left", "leg", "broken") end,
= function () affs:add_queue("sensitivity") end,
= function () affs:add_queue("depression") end,
= function () affs:add_queue("stupidity") end
Unknown2010-09-23 21:42:44
Is there a way to cure Blackout with Healing? I rather suspect not, but I haven't found a way to consistently get blackout in order to run through the list of non-obvious categories.
Xiel2010-09-23 21:56:09
There's not, no, for blackout. Vapors you can cure normally with melancholic, but not blackout itself.
calina2010-09-24 03:04:11
QUOTE (requiem dot exe @ Sep 23 2010, 05:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Is there a way to cure Blackout with Healing? I rather suspect not, but I haven't found a way to consistently get blackout in order to run through the list of non-obvious categories.

Pretty sure there is no way. have a celestine (like Me!) give you vapors and you can test it if you want
Prav2010-09-28 18:01:48
QUOTE (requiem dot exe @ Sep 23 2010, 05:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Is there a way to cure Blackout with Healing? I rather suspect not, but I haven't found a way to consistently get blackout in order to run through the list of non-obvious categories.

If it's anything like Achaea, just HEAL ME might cure it if there aren't any other afflictions present which would be cured by it first.
Ilyssa2010-09-29 00:53:33
Can you succor (successfully) during blackout?
calina2010-09-29 13:54:38
QUOTE (Prav @ Sep 28 2010, 02:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If it's anything like Achaea, just HEAL ME might cure it if there aren't any other afflictions present which would be cured by it first.

It's not like achaea. HEAL ME heals your own health at the cost of ego. no afflictions are cured