Estarra:

Druids:
Estarra the Eternal says, "I don't mind lowering casting time to 3s and i guess i don't mind getting rid of point cleanse."

Estarra the Eternal says, "I'm really disliking making it a 30s instakill."

Estarra the Eternal says, "I also don't like the idea of making sap the focus of druid combat."

You say, "Would it be fine then to focus on thornrend instead?"

Estarra the Eternal says, "Sure."

You say, "Here's the other idea for thornrend."

You say, "-allow thornlashes/thornrend to work on a sapped opponent once again."
You say, "Have thornrend -not- instakill a sapped opponent, instead, have it cause a substantial amount of damage and bleeding (dependent on number of limbs lashed)"
You say, "-disallow igniting lashes while you are sapped, i.e., you're too moist to be properly lit on fire."

Estarra the Eternal says, "So we're making thornrend/sap the druid main ability again."

You say, "The main kill method there yes, since sap alone isn't the plan."

Estarra the Eternal says, "Fire should remove a vine."

You say, "Right now, if you have say...3 lashes on you, and you're ignited, you get cured of all lashes. If you're sapped, can it be so you only lose 1 lash?"

Estarra the Eternal says, "Oh yeah i don't mind that. I also don't mind that curing a lash that way causes a burst of increased damage."

Estarra the Eternal says, "Well what I would still like to see is a way to give druids more combat flexiblity that doesn't revolve around sap and thornvines."

Estarra the Eternal says, "Even if that means removing one of those skills and adding another, or even two more skills."

You say, "You'd like to see something that isn't sap or thornrend related that would help druids as well, and would compliment melds."

Estarra the Eternal says, "I think that'd be better than beefing up thornrend and sap."

Estarra the Eternal says, "What an ability that increases allergies, what about an ability that causes an allergic reaction, what if allergies get to teh point where you can't breathe and pass out, etc., etc."

You say, "Can I say you're fine with allowing potentially new afflictions then, just for druids?"

Estarra the Eternal says, "Well, no."

Estarra the Eternal says, "Don't say one way or the other."

Estarra the Eternal says, "I don't want to give mixed signals."

Estarra the Eternal says, "I'd prefer no new afflictions that have cures."

Estarra the Eternal says, "i'm definitely not encouraging new afflictions."

You say, "So new afflictions that have no cure but time are okay, if I'm understanding correctly."

You say, "But if it comes down to it, that's okay?"

Estarra the Eternal says, "Time or movement."

Estarra nods Her head emphatically.

• SeedCloud: New skill. Surrounds the druid with a cloud for 5 minutes for 5p. All enemies have a percent chance of coughing and losing balance while in presence of druid. Using some herbs (increases allergic reaction). Only way to reduce allergy is to get out of seedcloud which will then fade with time.
  
• Pollen: Current druid meld skill. Every pollen tic, those affected by seedcloud become more allergic and chance of coughing increases. (I know someone mentioned that there was a previous pollen proposal that we didn't like but honestly I don't recall what it is.)
  
• Spiders/Bees: Current druid meld skill. Those affected by seedcloud and hit by spiders/bees increase allergic reaction and get the itching ailment.
  
• Shock: New skill. Can be targetted on a player for 10 power. If allergy is severe, will drop targetted player in shock for 15 seconds where they will suffer asphyxiation damage. If allergy is not severe, will increase allergy level (still uses 10 power).
  

Naia:

You can if you hit them (acros) with gyfu and ger and hope their system inserts a manabarbs line before the lash line so they don't auto-contort (hi Razenth!). In those cases it's entirely possible to solo rend a bard.

I'm teasing of course.

Razenth:

Mages are good outside their demense cause of Psionics. I think you'll be hard pressed to find a solution that will give druids equal parity outside of their menses but not cause them to be OP inside.

Solanis:

I'm kinda leery about meld-attrition combat. Especially if it's passive. Sleepmist is already an annoyance.

I feel this has some parallels to the Choke part of the report as well: Choke/Sap work by hindering the target's curing, I feel that is and should be the main focus of affliction classes. Lusternia has so many cures and things that normal curing speed outpaces affliction speed by an incredible amount.

• Make Thornlashes only usable inside demesne, but difficult/impossible to cure unless you leave the demesne. I guess this is basically the druid version of phantomspheres.
  

• Change Thornrend to only one command that costs 2-3p. It will add a lashed limb, and then do the current effect of rending at the lash count. So the first will add a lash and the bleeding. If the first is not cured the next would add another lash and more bleeding, etc. So basically we're just heaping on piles and piles of bleeding if you can actually stack lashes, which would still be difficult without some changes, though with 2 druids just spamming this, the bleeding would probably be bananas.
  

• Make rending at lower then 4 lashes do something more significant then just one shot of bleeding. Perhaps a stun of varying lengths. My report originally suggested various stuff like broken/mangled/amputate, but that's kind of just an annoyance at the low end and ridiculous at the high end. This one also didn't really deal the current difficulty of building lashes.
  

• Increasing the damage taken per lash from igniting yourself and/or increase the bleeding from writing out of lashes, point being so that just immediately writhing or igniting at 3-4 lashes is not ALWAYS something you'd want to do.
  
• Make the lashes only burn away on the ignite, not on passive ablaze tics.
  
• Change the difference in writhe time vs. eq taken so that you have to actually hinder the druid instead of just spamming writhe to outpace lashes.
  
• Change the demesne Thorns affect to afflict with a Thornlash.
  
• Make Darkseed afflict with Thornlashes in addtion to/instead of entangle. Change Scarab to be like this? Honestly I don't know how BT feel about Scarab, I don't see it used that often personally.