Requesting some feedback on Glomdoring stuff

by Unknown

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Mordrin2004-11-02 15:04:31
QUOTE (Rilandria @ Nov 2 2004, 03:43 PM)
The fact that you are a self proclaimed prophet is what makes me think that in the first place... now, if you had Divine backing from the beginning I'd be all for it.

Maybe it's just me, because I didn't play IRE games extensively before Lusternia, but in every other roleplaying mud I've played I've always discussed world changing plots I wanted to start with the actual people who make the game, and see if they approve or disapprove of it beforehand. Or, I wait patiently until one of those people decide to bestow upon me a pivotal role in a plot they made up themselves. While I do like that you are trying to make change, I don't like your methods and I'll always just believe you're trying, and always have tried, to make your character the most reknowned on Lusternia.


Visaeris/Jerle is pretty well known through out the various IRE games for his bad attitude, habitual lying and attention seeking. Once people in Magnagora started calling him on his attitude it was only a matter of time before he jumped ship for something else. I wouldn't expect this to last too long though, as soon as he's not getting the attention he craves from his Glomdoring clan he'll move on to something else.
Devris2004-11-02 15:35:53
Oh yeah, for all those in this forest (disciples of crow) thing arguing against why the Serenwilde is angry at you...here you go.


Read the history files!


Brief:

There were 3 communes all working together as a forest council

Gloriana got tainted

They kidnapped the High Druid from Ackleberry (another commune friendly to the Serenwilde)

They fed that High Druid, Gib Gladheart, taint until he was changed into the tainted form of a large black worm. Oh, did I say fed, I meant they held him against his will and FORCE FED him taint as Rowena stood by and laughed.


Oh yeah, we aren't evil! (as claims stand)
Unknown2004-11-02 15:42:29
Jimminy Christletoes.....okay! So, as you say to read the histories I would suggest that you do the same...first off....dismiss Taint and Evil....don't use the two in a sentence together....get it out of your head.

Now, yes they fed Taint to him, creating the Ebonglom Wyrm....but the fact of the matter is this....at that time, Kethuru controlled the Taint....I don't even think that half of the people who are of the Taint support what Kethuru did with it so to continue to support the logic that the Taint is "evil" and that a Glomdoring commune is evil is really inaccurate. I am not sure how to speak of Brennan or Rowena on the matter but if they continue to support the Taint as it was controlled by Kethuru, I wouldn't think that that would be the logic of the entire Glomdoring Commune.
Mordrin2004-11-02 15:45:29
QUOTE (Felemar Palewynd @ Nov 2 2004, 04:42 PM)
Jimminy Christletoes.....okay! So, as you say to read the histories I would suggest that you do the same...first off....dismiss Taint and Evil....don't use the two in a sentence together....get it out of your head.

Now, yes they fed Taint to him, creating the Ebonglom Wyrm....but the fact of the matter is this....at that time, Kethuru controlled the Taint....I don't even think that half of the people who are of the Taint support what Kethuru did with it so to continue to support the logic that the Taint is "evil" and that a Glomdoring commune is evil is really inaccurate. I am not sure how to speak of Brennan or Rowena on the matter but if they continue to support the Taint as it was controlled by Kethuru, I wouldn't think that that would be the logic of the entire Glomdoring Commune.


Actually that's not true, when Lolli Pringle (sp?) witnessed this happening the Taint was no longer under the control of Kethuru. That was the only way he could possibly have entered the Taint to witness this without being mutated and was the whole reason he was thrown into it in the first place.
Devris2004-11-02 15:49:54
Trust me, I have the entire history on bookmark and read it all the time...the example I pointed out was not the only example.

Look at Rowena helping to transport the Emperor via a flock of crows, then running off when he was in trouble.

As people have pointed out you have Crow/Rowena who seek to destroy White Hart...which you can gleam by asking her about it.

I don't define someone as evil just by definition, I define it by actions...look at the actions of the two main commune forces they follow. The acts peformed so far are evil...is taint evil, no...but the acts peformed were malicious acts of pure evil. You hold someone against their will and forcefeed them taint to change them into a foul disgusting creature...that ain't good buddy.

If I defined taint as evil, I would have included Magnagora into that group...but I don't as they are simply embracing taint. Evil is defined by actions which the Glomdoring forest has demonstrated by the actions of Crow and Rowena that they are inherently evil.
Unknown2004-11-02 16:30:55
It sounds like a great setup! I don't know how well it'll work without the Nexus things...(*only registered here to see what the discussion was*)

Go for it. Gotta love a game world where you can even hope to do something like that. All I will warn of is that it may be a bit fresh out of the gate. A month now, and already we've had the Chancellor of Magnagora turn traitor in an attempt to get in as the Aeromancer/Hallifax leadership. Ah, chaos. The one uniting factor in IRE. All stories rise from it.

Good luck with it, Vis! We've been rolling for a RL year, and it doesn't stop being fun!
Unknown2004-11-02 16:33:54
On the note of Hallifax/Gaudiguch...I'm not sure why people are playing for power there when it is going to be a long time before it comes into play anymore. I have all of the research done and am just waiting for the Divine go-ahead if you will. It's foolish to severe ties trying to get to them at this point.
Mordrin2004-11-02 16:55:32
QUOTE (Felemar Palewynd @ Nov 2 2004, 05:33 PM)
On the note of Hallifax/Gaudiguch...I'm not sure why people are playing for power there when it is going to be a long time before it comes into play anymore. I have all of the research done and am just waiting for the Divine go-ahead if you will. It's foolish to severe ties trying to get to them at this point.


Don't care about being in charge, I just want to be a pyromancer!
Unknown2004-11-02 17:21:53
That's sort of like cutting of your nose to spite your face right now....there isn't any since in forgoing your allegiances to the cities/communes for something that isn't going to be there for a while anyway.
Mordrin2004-11-02 17:24:29
QUOTE (Felemar Palewynd @ Nov 2 2004, 06:21 PM)
That's sort of like cutting of your nose to spite your face right now....there isn't any since in forgoing your allegiances to the cities/communes for something that isn't going to be there for a while anyway.


Was that a response to me? Don't think I even mentioned forgoing allegiances. You're just trying to increase your post count again aren't you?
Rilandria2004-11-02 18:25:49
I'd like to be an Aeromancer... though I'd have to make an alt for that when the time comes. I couldn't handle losing all those lessons in the guild switch. And plus, it wouldn't be very RP consistent tongue.gif
Devris2004-11-02 19:26:41
Personally, I'd just like to see a bunch of cities/communes in that really have no alliances or ties to each other. Therefore, you could get conflicts going every which way and we won't have the sunken in alliance effects as there are in other IRE realms.

City A attacks City B (parts of Cities B,C,D attack City A)

If you look at it, almost all the city/communes and what could come in as a city really have reason to hate everyone. I won't go into vast detail but the High Moon Priestess has said she will never trust cities again (naming Celest I believe) and Rowena took off and left the undead Emperor to his fate. Some good conflict would be a welcome change for once as opposed to staring at other cities without a hint of conflict coming..not mentioning any city names tongue.gif
Unknown2004-11-02 19:27:47
No, someone mentioned earlier that people a city minister was forsaking the city for Hallifax.......I am saying, it's stupid to forsake the city for Hallifax or Gaudiguch since they won't be here for a long time. I have said a hundred times already, post count doesn't matter....98% of the time I don't talk without something to say so stop playing that card any time someone has an argument about something.
Asarnil2004-11-03 04:59:04
QUOTE (Mordrin @ Nov 3 2004, 01:34 AM)
Visaeris/Jerle is pretty well known through out the various IRE games for his bad attitude, habitual lying and attention seeking. Once people in Magnagora started calling him on his attitude it was only a matter of time before he jumped ship for something else. I wouldn't expect this to last too long though, as soon as he's not getting the attention he craves from his Glomdoring clan he'll move on to something else.


I was wondering how long it would take someone to call out Vis on that rolleyes.gif I must admit - I am probably negatively prejudiced by that, but if so, its from a history of being able to view his actions in-game on Achaea since he was a newbie.
Unknown2004-11-03 07:05:40
QUOTE (Rilandria @ Nov 2 2004, 07:43 AM)
Maybe it's just me, because I didn't play IRE games extensively before Lusternia, but in every other roleplaying mud I've played I've always discussed world changing plots I wanted to start with the actual people who make the game, and see if they approve or disapprove of it beforehand. Or, I wait patiently until one of those people decide to bestow upon me a pivotal role in a plot they made up themselves.


This breaks it down to the essential difference between you and I. I believe in making things happen. If the Divine don't like it, they're welcome to ask me to stop. But i'm not going to ask permission, or wait to be brought in. I want to make gears turn

QUOTE (Mordrin @ Nov 2 2004, 08:04 AM)
Visaeris/Jerle is pretty well known through out the various IRE games for his bad attitude, habitual lying and attention seeking. Once people in Magnagora started calling him on his attitude it was only a matter of time before he jumped ship for something else. I wouldn't expect this to last too long though, as soon as he's not getting the attention he craves from his Glomdoring clan he'll move on to something else.


Oh Mordrin rolleyes.gif
Thorgal2004-11-03 08:25:14
Anyone that knows Achaea and is even slightly capable of thinking -objectively-, will accept every kind of roleplay with open arms, instead of bitching about it. -glare- ..Just be glad someone bothers..
Mordrin2004-11-03 09:26:58
QUOTE (Thorgal @ Nov 3 2004, 09:25 AM)
Anyone that knows Achaea and is even slightly capable of thinking -objectively-, will accept every kind of roleplay with open arms, instead of bitching about it. -glare- ..Just be glad someone bothers..


I can only assume if you think that this is roleplay you never met Jerle in any of his various other IRE incarnations. This is the same old thing he always does.
Thorgal2004-11-03 09:52:52
Judging someone cause of previous characters and acting accordingly of that, is even worse though.
Mordrin2004-11-03 09:59:05
QUOTE (Thorgal @ Nov 3 2004, 10:52 AM)
Judging someone cause of previous characters and acting accordingly of that, is even worse though.


Not really, I can judge people on past experience all I want to out of character. You're welcome to your own opinions, just don't say I didn't warn you.
Unknown2004-11-03 15:53:18
QUOTE (Mordrin @ Nov 3 2004, 02:26 AM)
I can only assume if you think that this is roleplay you never met Jerle in any of his various other IRE incarnations. This is the same old thing he always does.


Err.. Not really.