You are right, and that is why I would rather not see a commune since both sides have done quite a bit of work on the subject. Either way you go, you are gonna piss off one group or the other...so just leave as is.

I'd like to see that fast, since I'm a sucker at new cities/guilds/skills, and Glomdoring would mean that for sure. Not that I want to join it, I just want new things.

Anyway, I think my theory of having an Ackleberry commune is flawed. If such a place would exist, which plane should it be linked to? Each city has its own elemental and cosmic plane, and we can see both Serenwilde and Glomdoring on the ethereal one.

Might actually cause some amount of conflict involving Serenwilde. As is, Celest is too scared to attack it for fear of a two-front war, and Magnagora is trying to make friends with it both for alchemy and for the same reason. With Glomdoring around, it'll make things so much more interesting.

My Seren hates the idea though. Tainted forest = not good.

What makes you think that ethereal ackleberry wasn't lost with the prime forest?

I'm 100% in support of a Glomdoring Commune oocly. As far as my elfen celestine goes, the very mention of the place and its inhabitants makes his blood run chill.

I've wanted to do a Tainted forestal since I read the part of the histories where you got to see Rowena become Tainted. The concept appeals to me - the cruel, predatory, Darwinian mindset, the kind of skillsets it would have, the roleplay - everything is exactly the kind of experiance I'm looking for.

Bringing back the Gloriana doesn't really make sense, and as others have said, would make people want to try it on Magnagora. Also, Lord Auseklis said that even a Viscanti couldn't be un-Tainted - what then implies that a forest hundreds of times larger could be un-Tainted?

Errr..

What?

I've heard of one or two people(whose names I can't even remember) trying to push for a Gloriana revival... And I hear *a lot*

Not exactly a huge group...

Edit: And also, just because someone is RPing with a certain objective, doesn't mean that objective will happen. I submit my own organisation and hopes for Glomdoring as evidence

I think it'd be Wonderful idea for there to be a tainted commune in Glomdoring. There's all kinds of fun potential in that! Not to mention more balance...I mean there's a tainted city and an untainted city, why not a tainted commune to match up against the untainted Serenwilde? Plus, the fact that my character would be horrified at the very idea is fun too.

There is no big organization for gloriana. There is one (comparativly) for glomdoring. Un-tainting it, or leaving it like it is infinitely would ruin more rp than making it into a commune.

Im for it in both senses, the types of inhabitants just appeal to me. I feel like we have worked on glomdoring, while the Hallifax/Gaudiguch people havent worked as much (most just started, although im sure there are some people who have been working hard for a long time).

You need to look closer than dear boy...it is there. They just don't choose to advertise as much as the DoC. As far as it making sense for the Gloriana to return, it could easily make sense if the Gloriana river resisted tainting and could be used to cleanse the forest by allowing the fresh water to flow through the forest and sinking deep into the tree roots. Perhaps some sort of player attempt to put the river over flood stage and bathe the forest in the clean flowing waters. Just a few ideas we have had so far.

It's not like being tainted is literally being dirty. Water isn't going to wash away the taint. The tainted forest of Glomdoring is as much a product of age old taint as the Viscanti are. You can't untaint a viscanti, they're not just dirty people. They're something new.
Or am I wrong about this?

Gib was fed taint and changed to the Ebonglom Wyrm. He can be changed back into Gib, as has been done a few times.

Druids can remove the taint put up on rooms by the Magnagorans.


Taint can be removed from things, just takes some effort.

Perhaps the older, more powerful taint could be argued as not being able to be changed. But as has been expressed, with that souless god now imprisoned, this is a weaker version of taint. My one chat where Rowena responded, I mentioned cleansing the forest and she replied, 'We do not take kindly to those attempting to cleanse our forest."

Gives us hope it can be cleansed when the inhabitants are actively against cleansing...otherwise they would just ignore it and laugh.

It was tainted by the old, incurable taint... so I argue it cant be changed.

Well, yes, the "new" taint isn't the same as the old taint of Kethurhu, but you might be right about the cleansing, if Rowena implies it.

On the other hand, I do think the idea of having another Serenwilde is a really bad idea. Even though you think it'll be different, it'll be like two scoops of vanilla.

What I don't think most people get is that good roleplay stems from drama, and drama is the product of two opposed forces butting heads. I just think that another "good" commune would be a bland addition to Lusternia. However, an underdog tainted commune would create drama, and thus leading to good roleplaying opportunities.

Go disciples.

You'll notice he's actually still very much different from a leader of Ackleberry. I don't think he would eat what he does if he was fully turned back.

The likelihood of it being cleansed is slim, I realize that as it would take an enitre rebuild on the forest. But the subtle clues are out there for it to be cleansed...the Gloriana will never Die scrawled into a wall....Rowena's resentment to cleansing.....the clean river itself....numerous mobs saying the secret lies in the river.

While Gib is not the same as he was prior to tainting, hopefully he could be changed back as well via the help of the Ackleberry commune if ever restored.

More than likely it will go as a tainted commune, and part of me would like to see that as well. But I have to stick by what I started from the very beginning of playing, which is trying to restore the Gloriana and rally more to the cause so we can research it more and more.

Assuming it was cleansed, I challenge someone to show me how it would be different from Serenwilde.

Ditto.

What's this about us advertising?

I think that the only reason that DoC was a "big deal" for a little bit was because Serenwilde made us so.

Am I wrong?

We have been mentioned on the boards by our own, and by Serenwilde, and probably by others that I forget.
Not advertising, but to the same effect.