To be fair, Laetitia makes influence dead easy. On the -really- high up denizens, there's still a decent chance to lose with just bromides. With even one person chanting on you, that chances goes away.

I do not know why you think the Serenwilde is at a disadvantage really. Of course you have to work harder you have chosen to live within a nature commune. Your power will take longer to produce because you are not connected with the Astral plane. Trees will have to be grown in every room to maximize your power potential.

Your nexus shouldn't be connected to the Astral plane at all anyways. It isn't connected directly to both a cosmic and elemental plane. The Ethereal plane is a melding of all planes indirectly and directly which then reflects on the Prime. It would be completely out of character from my perspective to allow Wiccans and Druids to link nodes from astral to their nexus.

If you regen ego in the day then influence in the day with beauty enchantments and bromides. Serenwilde also has an abundance of elfen, faeling, and tae'dae races which also helps you. With all that charisma it means you have more ego to burn.

It seems like the Serenwilde will start to understand that they will get more power with the more villages they have swayed. Just switch your government style to a Religious Commune and see the power come in.

The reasons Celest has as much power as it does, or has had, is because of our past Religious style government which hasn't been changed since we started. If Serenwilde wishes to do this you will obviously see more power and more bright and sunshining faces.

I'm fairly certain communes can only choose the commune style of government, the other three are for cities. Am I mistaken?

Hey you know what your right. I apologise. Just switch your government to a despotic commune. Demand that power and those commodities!

We don't have any choice in the government style, its neutral commune I do believe.

And we have plenty of ways of gaining power. We just have had a fairly large drain with no villages to support us. I dont believe we need any more big power things.

And for reference purposes, sun totem is approximately equivalent to half what I get when meditating, which is again roughly half of what I get when someone uses the rituals skill that regenerates Ego on me.

So, we get 1/4 as effective, unstackable help thats only on half the time :|

We can switch from Benign, Neutral, and Despotic


Commune Government is fixed as Commune, however, and cannot be made Commerical, Religious, or Conquest.


Power is fine, there's no reason to compare it to cities, when Magnagora had 3+ villages ever since day 1, and Celest averaged atleast two.

Moonhart trees give the commune power even before they become totems. The older the tree, the more power. Totems just act like exceptionally old trees and so give the most power vs. all the other types of trees.

The only organization that will have to start worrying about power is New Celest at this point I am afraid.

Does Magnagora get a prize for being the first to get 100K power?

i don't think that Magnagora got a prize for being the first to get 100K power.

Getting power from astral really shouldn't factor in as ways to get power for the city. Reason being is simple, take a walk through astral basicly every node is dead. As Estarra said if it's dead it will take along time to recharge, I estimate this to be around a RL week because I have yet to see one recharge beyond 1 or 2 points. People are greedy and stupid, they don't realize that if you drain it from full down like 20 points, wait 30min-hour it's completely full again. Or if you are using it to bash, you can go forever, make 1-2 things, kill them, come back make 1-2, it will never go below halo. Using those nih/celest link stuff drains it 10 times faster, and thats how they all get killed.

There is a very good reason for this phenomenon. Indeed, some economists have won Nobel Prizes figuring it out. Search the web for "Tragedy of the Commons" and "Coase Theorem" to get a good explanation. (The nodes qualify as being a "commons".)

Ah...the classical problem of the overusage of a common resource. It's true though, a power node, being an inexcludable, non-rival commodity has the potential to be utterly drained when mortal intervention is not taken to ration it. As no such intervention has occured, we find the astral nodes out of power, useless with few exceptions.

Or, alternatively -

Given the nature of Celest v. Magnagora relations at present, it actually works to Magnagora's advantage to make sure all Astral nodes are drained to zero, 100% of the time, as I'm assuming that astral nodes/fae are the two major sources of Celest's power at present.

So, if you actually think about it, it makes *sense* from a strategic point of view if Magnagora fully drain all nodes, and thus deprive Celest of power generation. If they can do that, while killing Supernals and raising the Emperor's ship, well, Celest is in trouble.

powerwise, it's not possible to bring a city down to its knee

actually it is. Fun stuff happens when a city gets 0 power.

I think that Serenwilde is doing very fine...in the long run we won't be dependent on villages and I see that as a huge advantage.
Also even if the cities have tons more power...does it make any difference? You can only use that much at once and except for bragging rights they can't do much with it...yet.

Concerning gaining power for Serenwilde's Moonheart tree. heres a list of things that are very bad

one: Do not drain a node on the prime to 0 or it will explode in your face.. seriously:

two: watch out for those dang goats and other things on the astral.. I have claimed the wizard emote!

Yeah, that one node blew up in our face at about 3/4 power, or just under. Maybe that was because it had like 500 people there, maybe it was because that's what it did, maybe it's Tzaraziko's hand having fun with us, but yeah.

That was another illustration of my point though. See, after the Magnagorans started draining the node for whatever reason, the Serenwilde sort of gave up, and reasoning that the node would be drained anyway got as much power as they could so that the Seren nexus would be saved some. Thing was, Celest got like 50 power (the Celestian linkers, or at least one, were threatened by Silvanus to unlink), Serenwilde probably managed about 400, or thereabouts, due to about 6 of us there linking..and Magnagora got 10,000 from darkcall. I mean, ouch.

What was funny the most is.. no one even got mad over dieing at the ends of the magnagora's who linked to the node besides me