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People tell me Serenwilde is pretty neutral but just TRY and eat a salad without a treehugger tackling you and weeping over the poor wasted youth of the lettuce you just slaughtered, the whole nature thing gets pretty tiring if your not into it and again if you like to hunt and quest well tough noogies because if you so much as even suggest you like killing animals well you must be the devil and you'll soon find yourself staked out with sharpened celery stalks, you heretic you.
Okay....
As fully amusing (well, not really), as that is in theory...
The Serenwilde is -not- a treehugger society.
Infact, I kill cows. I don't kill deer. Why? They ask me not to. They're cousins to the White Hart, a Great Spirit. White Hart Himself says not to hurt his children.
The cows I reason by stating that the cow accepts the fate to have its life given up to feed others. (Indian belief, anyone?)
The same theory is applied when mulching the Great Trees. We ask the Tree to give up it's life, so that the others may grow.
Just when you hunt something, you don't do it for sport. You don't kill the sheep or cow because 'it's good exp'
You take the corpse to the village that will turn it into meat, and voila.
Further, the Seren is more ancient ways, whether that's mystic paganist belief, or indian religion in theory.
Food for thought, as the case may be.
Addendum- Furrikins are a general vegetarian society, as exampled by Estelbar.
How would eating a salad offend anyone?
Humor is only humourous when it's not so blatantly off base without any true foundation.
I like all the cities. they each have a spot for different gaming types and I dont mind that the game is based around conflict, would be a pretty boring game about how good of a farmer you could be if it wasnt hehe.
To respond to what Gol said its not that I mind fighting, fighting is great and its an important part of the game but my point in a neutral based city was in WHO is telling you to fight WHEN. I dont want anybody telling me who I have to fight or kill when I come on to play or how I have to think, I hate feeling restricted just by choosing a city and automatically having to put my charecter into a cookie cutter mold.
I REALLY hate people telling me what quests I can do, who I can marry and who I can hang out with, its stuff like that that makes me want to beat people with the neutrality stick......which by the way is a piece of foam that says APATHY....and never gets used because I cant get myself to care
I guess what Im saying is the cities are set up good and each has its own play style, it doesnt take a genius to see from reading the guild and city descriptions what type of city your going to be living in so you already have an idea of what type of char you want to play and what will be tolerated or accepted in that city, but what is missing is a neutral architype city free of any ideological ties.
And yes Serenwilde comes the closest of the three to the ideal but it IS nature based and while it isnt a total treehugger community yet I think in time they will all be hiding acorns in their houses and putting woodchucks on the council.
I had hopes for Celest being more moderate but they sooooooo went right for the "We're the chosen of the gods route"....which was kinda inevitable based on the histories. Magnagora was always going to be the pit of despair, you just cant have undead rolling around town and hang with demons without being labled....just a tad....evil..hehe.
I think the mile marker for me will be if a new city gets founded and I see Lacostian settle in to it. That will be the city for me as the gods seem to have a pretty good idea of what neutrality is. It will come down to the amount of players I think. Ive seen 150 at peak times, so maybe we'd have to get to about 200 to support another city.....would suck if another city popped up and they had just barely enough people to fill the council and guild officer positions.
To respond to what Gol said its not that I mind fighting, fighting is great and its an important part of the game but my point in a neutral based city was in WHO is telling you to fight WHEN. I dont want anybody telling me who I have to fight or kill when I come on to play or how I have to think, I hate feeling restricted just by choosing a city and automatically having to put my charecter into a cookie cutter mold.
I REALLY hate people telling me what quests I can do, who I can marry and who I can hang out with, its stuff like that that makes me want to beat people with the neutrality stick......which by the way is a piece of foam that says APATHY....and never gets used because I cant get myself to care
I guess what Im saying is the cities are set up good and each has its own play style, it doesnt take a genius to see from reading the guild and city descriptions what type of city your going to be living in so you already have an idea of what type of char you want to play and what will be tolerated or accepted in that city, but what is missing is a neutral architype city free of any ideological ties.
And yes Serenwilde comes the closest of the three to the ideal but it IS nature based and while it isnt a total treehugger community yet I think in time they will all be hiding acorns in their houses and putting woodchucks on the council.
I had hopes for Celest being more moderate but they sooooooo went right for the "We're the chosen of the gods route"....which was kinda inevitable based on the histories. Magnagora was always going to be the pit of despair, you just cant have undead rolling around town and hang with demons without being labled....just a tad....evil..hehe.
I think the mile marker for me will be if a new city gets founded and I see Lacostian settle in to it. That will be the city for me as the gods seem to have a pretty good idea of what neutrality is. It will come down to the amount of players I think. Ive seen 150 at peak times, so maybe we'd have to get to about 200 to support another city.....would suck if another city popped up and they had just barely enough people to fill the council and guild officer positions.
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It will come down to the amount of players I think. Ive seen 150 at peak times, so maybe we'd have to get to about 200 to support another city.....would suck if another city popped up and they had just barely enough people to fill the council and guild officer positions.
While this makes sense, when it comes down to it, it seems a lot of people either quit the game, or are waiting for a proper city for them to RP in before creating a character (just waiting for a friend in the game to say it's there now)...
So, waiting for the playerbase to build up isn't the answer, in my opinion. Build it, and they will come
heh.Same here, but I just made an educated guess. *inno* Well, uneducated. I DID do a question on Red Indians in my Y9 English paper, but that's about it. 
Well Delver, your problems more seems to be with authority Beyond conflict IRE games have very solid rank systems, city, guild and order. I highly doubt you'll find a city willing to just let you go off and do what you want without ever asking you to do something, or a guild that will just let you be there for skills.
Beyond conflict IRE games have very solid rank systems, city, guild and order. I highly doubt you'll find a city willing to just let you go off and do what you want without ever asking you to do something, or a guild that will just let you be there for skills.QUOTE (Richter @ Nov 29 2004, 09:50 PM)
Well, Columbus was a wierdo, and got all mixed up.
But you guys call them "red indians"? Ahahahaaaa
But you guys call them "red indians"? Ahahahaaaa
NO, we call them Native Americans, I just used Red Indians to stress my point, dangit!
What's wrong with the phrase Red Indians? 
QUOTE (Richter @ Nov 29 2004, 08:50 PM)
But you guys call them "red indians"? Ahahahaaaa
Only when we need to distinguish them from the one billion other Indians out here in what we like to call "the rest of the world".
