Champions and Protectors

by Unknown

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Unknown2004-12-02 01:26:19
What do you think of Champions and Protectors being like Mark, from Achaea tongue.gif, for their Guild only?

Besides being someone who wants to kill all their enemies on a daily basis, I find it upsetting my Guildmates can be killed for suspect status, the nnot touched again, if they're one of them who can't take up for themselves. Kill the defenceless fellah, then it's over. Wait 30 days, do it again.

-OR-

Beseech your Champion or a Protector to lay down the law and make the blood rain, etc, preach the scriptures as you kill them (working on this). bruce_h4h.gif
Dritex2004-12-02 05:47:29
Perhaps make them free to PK those that are attacking teh person they are resuing, but likewise, the attacking person gets free pk on the champion.
Unknown2004-12-02 19:52:40
There are no "PK rules" in Lusternia, and it will remain that way as long as people use common sense and don't abuse the system. Please, let's not start with all the "open PK," "free PK," or "I have PK on him because he hurt me."
Unknown2004-12-02 20:04:22
QUOTE
There are no "PK rules" in Lusternia, and it will remain that way as long as people use common sense and don't abuse the system. Please, let's not start with all the "open PK," "free PK," or "I have PK on him because he hurt me."


It's hopeless, Zarquan. I've seen newbies talking about it already.
Unknown2004-12-02 20:06:11
Newbies talking about PK rules? I'll kill them! tongue.gif

Seriously, folks, this is NOT Achaea/Aetolia/Imperian. Forget what you knew and start with what you don't know.
Shamarah2004-12-02 20:32:23
I think what's usually meant by "Open PK" in this context is "Avenger-Safe".

Therefore, how about this:

If a novice of a guild is attacked by another novice, the novice can report the attack. Then, the guild Protectors, Security, and Champion (and those only) can kill the person once with no possibility of suspect status or vengeance from the avenger.

There's probably a thousand loopholes in that that I'm missing, though...
Unknown2004-12-02 20:37:18
I see what you mean. All it would take is a bit of coding, so you wouldn't get the PK legal crap you get in Achaea/Aetolia.
Richter2004-12-02 21:00:57
Meh, the avenger is supposed to take care of all this "pk rights" stuff.

The way I see it, there are no "pk rules" because that is ooc. Would you, when you RP, say I'm "allowed" to kill you? No.

Kill someone if you want. Just that you now have to worry about thier friends and family coming after you, and the avenger if you do it again.
Unknown2004-12-02 21:02:19
Who the hell's Mark?
Unknown2004-12-02 21:12:21
In Achaea, you had the Ivory and Quisalis Mark, Champions and Assassins, respectively. Basically, you could hire them to kill someone, though it involved a lot of PK legal mumbo.
Unknown2004-12-02 23:58:58
QUOTE (Zarquan @ Dec 2 2004, 08:06 PM)
Newbies talking about PK rules? I'll kill them! tongue.gif

Seriously, folks, this is NOT Achaea/Aetolia/Imperian. Forget what you knew and start with what you don't know.


To nitpick, they're not coming from Imperian saying that since it doesn't have PK rules either.
Dritex2004-12-03 00:13:49
QUOTE (Shamarah @ Dec 2 2004, 01:32 PM)
I think what's usually meant by "Open PK" in this context is "Avenger-Safe".


That's exactly the way I was meaning it in my post. Free PK, as in, you are freee to kill without worry of the avenger comming down on you.

So, in the way I suggested it

The champion can resuce the guild member, and thsu is able to kill the attacker without worry of the Avenger. Simple, yes? But also, the attacker is free to kill the Champion, without worry of being avengered for that. Once again, simple, yes?

I know it would be one hell of a thing to code in, but the idea is simple, and makes sense.
Daganev2004-12-03 00:50:51
Use the words PvP instead of PK... make life easier on everyone.


Also Me just had the best line in my carrer "We (being ur'guard) are not knights, we are mongolians. Mongolians with Class."
Richter2004-12-03 00:52:50
A giant asian bear? O_o
Unknown2004-12-03 21:51:17
Make it like the Mark, except this: You 'BESEECH KILL '

If that person has attacked you in the past (5 minutes?), the champion or protector can attack and kill them. This requires (obviously) you don't have a Suspect status on them. If the Protector/Champion kills them, YOU get the Bully status, and the Protector/Champion is clean.

I made the requirement of past 5 minutes or something, because otherwise, an idiot champion or protector can have everyone in the guild beseech them to kill, and avoid avenger.
Unknown2004-12-03 21:53:34
Oh, and the Champion or Protector in this situation can be killed/attacked without affecting avenger status at all, for the original person, or some such.