Elder Gods

by Shiri

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Shiri2004-12-05 00:25:59
Well...right after the new Goddess (I forget her name) arrived, it seems like everything's gotten a whole lot interesting. But one of the things Fain shouted - something like, "As you can see, I am the only one of the First Circle" left, thoroughly confused me. I've looked through the histories, but I can't find it - does this mean the new Elder God histories will be there soon? I sure hope so! biggrin.gif
Unknown2004-12-05 00:34:52
I sure hope so. The histories are too interesting to not be coming soon!

Um... icecream.gif
Unknown2004-12-05 00:42:58
Here's me hypothising...

To quote Cosmogenesis:
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But Dynara and the nameless son saved those life forms that became their favorites, and these became known as the Elder Gods, and they were many. Thus came to be the Dragon God Dracnoris, Clangorum of the Mountains, Elfenhoala the Fair, Aslarn the Quick, Meridian the Wise, Orlachmar the Strong, Trillilian of the Skies, Bollikin the Playful, and many others.


I assume these Gods mentioned are the "First Circle" or what have you. However, all of these mentioned Divine became Races (Meridian => Merian, Orlachmar => Orclach etc.) Perhaps Fain was the only one not to do this, meaning He is the only "First Circle" left. Of course, I'm only guessing at this.

Also, if Roark is supposed to be the greatest of the Elder Gods, I would have assumed that He was from the First Circle. Oh well, I'm sure they'll get around to explaining it soonish.

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Auseklis2004-12-05 00:45:19
QUOTE (Quitaris @ Dec 5 2004, 01:42 AM)
I assume these Gods mentioned are the "First Circle" or what have you. However, all of these mentioned Divine became Races (Meridian => Merian, Orlachmar => Orclach etc.) Perhaps Fain was the only one not to do this, meaning He is the only "First Circle" left. Of course, I'm only guessing at this.


Nope wink.gif
Terentia2004-12-05 00:45:39
Meh, you're already forgetting my name?

I didn't think I was that unmemorable. Thanks. Hmph.
Unknown2004-12-05 00:46:07
QUOTE (Quitaris @ Dec 5 2004, 11:42 AM)
Also, if Roark is supposed to be the greatest of the Elder Gods, I would have assumed that He was from the First Circle. Oh well, I'm sure they'll get around to explaining it soonish.

Terentia said that the First Circle was no stronger than the Fifth, nor was the Fifth stronger than the First. I'd imagine it's to do with the order in which They came to be, or something... maybe.
Terentia2004-12-05 00:50:00
Terentia also made references to those of particular Circles having particular characteristics (like those of the Fith being aloof). Hmm. I wonder if that has to do with it!

Then again, I could be wrong.
Jasper2004-12-05 00:53:05
Perhaps the Divine are could be of different Circles? Not quite sure on that, it is rather confusing. Oh well, just have to wait for the Histories I guess
Shiri2004-12-05 00:53:32
QUOTE (Terentia @ Dec 5 2004, 01:45 AM)
Meh, you're already forgetting my name?

I didn't think I was that unmemorable. Thanks. Hmph.


Well, I remembered it began with a T. *duck*
Seriously though, sorry. Don't be offended, I do have a memory disorder. Gets me into trouble sometimes. =/
Unknown2004-12-05 01:03:19
I think it has to do with how the elder gods and goddess acted. I think the most logical ones were placed in one circle and the ones that were aloof in another.
Unknown2004-12-05 01:05:38
QUOTE (Sidharta @ Dec 5 2004, 10:16 AM)
Terentia said that the First Circle was no stronger than the Fifth, nor was the Fifth stronger than the First. I'd imagine it's to do with the order in which They came to be, or something... maybe.


Actually, I didn't realise there was a new Godess, I assumed you were refering to Lisaera. That teaches me for not logging in before I open my big mouth.

If the Fifth Circle was aloof, I'd assume that's where Roark fits.

To quote Auseklis:
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Nope  wink.gif


Okay, well, back to the drawing board....
Unknown2004-12-05 01:45:37
Fain is from the First, Terentia from the Second, Roark from the Fifth. That's all I remember.

I would say it is based on age, as Fain mentioned something about being the oldest of the current elder gods.
Unknown2004-12-05 02:08:05
Fain is from the First
Terentia, Meridian, Krokano, Loboshi are all from the Second
Roark from the Fifth.

Most likely age.

As for the Elder Gods history.. The pieces are there :-D

Basically here's what I've assembled from all sorts of sources.
The Soulless got hungry, decided to start munching on some Elder Gods. A number of them die/cease to exist, as they are consumed by the Soulless. Fain/Raezon attempt to wheel and deal with the Soulless, but fail. A handful of Elder Gods manage to escape the Carnage, sneaking away to corners of the multiverse and laying low.. Some may have even gotten lost in their flight, hence the need for the beacon to bring them back.

All theory and based on some conclusions and assumptions and such.. Doing it off the top of my head iwthout consulting my notes.. I really should use them now and again, it's kind of hard to recite history and propose stuff when you can't remember everything precisely.
Auseklis2004-12-05 02:18:20
Any of those in the discussion with Lisaera, Lacostian and Myself should feel free to post as much or as little of it as you see fit.

EDIT: not logs!
Unknown2004-12-05 02:29:47
*drools* all this elder god history mystery is making me drool!
Elryn2004-12-05 02:33:47
From what was discussed, the Circles were spheres of interest and ability amongst the Elder Gods before the wars, that some followed more strictly than others.

Jasper discovered the following approximate meanings for the circles:

First Circle - Leaders (also diplomats)
Second Circle - Warriors
Third Circle - Meditators
Fourth Circle - Artists
Fifth Circle - Thinkers
Sixth Circle - Awakeners
Seventh Circle - Creators (in a physical sense)

Woot Jasper! He knows a bit more, but I'll leave that for him to reveal.
Qaletaqa2004-12-05 02:42:55
So Estarra is from the Seventh Circle?
Unknown2004-12-05 02:47:11
Lady Estarra is not an elder god. She is a form from the merging of Dynara, the nameless son and Magnora. that is my opinion anyways *flaps*
Ihsahn2004-12-05 03:38:33
Wait, there's a new Goddess? How did this come about?
Jasper2004-12-05 05:42:30
QUOTE (Elryn @ Dec 5 2004, 02:33 AM)
From what was discussed, the Circles were spheres of interest and ability amongst the Elder Gods before the wars, that some followed more strictly than others. 

Jasper discovered the following approximate meanings for the circles:

First Circle - Leaders (also diplomats)
Second Circle - Warriors
Third Circle - Meditators
Fourth Circle - Artists
Fifth Circle - Thinkers
Sixth Circle - Awakeners
Seventh Circle - Creators (in a physical sense)

Woot Jasper!  He knows a bit more, but I'll leave that for him to reveal.


Yes, that is what Lisaera told Jasper when I spoke to her, and while she spoke to the group, I began to write down certain gods that fit the Circle.

First Circle - Leaders/Dipolmats- Fain was in this, supposedly He first met with the Soulless and then presented his meeting to the rest of the Alliance of Elder Gods. Raezon joined Fain and these two joined the Soulless with a couple others. Lisaera joined them also, but she had secret plans with Meridian, who was also one of the First Circle, and Terentia both of who attacked a group of Soulless that Fain and Raezon were with. Which then resulted with them being thrown in the Void.
Second Circle - Warrior- Terentia is in the Second Circle, her part is talked about above. Also, Lisaera said that Loboshi and Krokano were part of this
Third Circle - Meditators- Lacostian is in the Third Circle
Fourth Circle - Artists- Not sure, but I would say Isune?
Fifth Circle - Thinkers- Roark, for reasons that once can think about
Sixth Circle - Awakeners- Lisaera!!! And also I believe Auseklis said he was in this Circle, along with Elfenehoala.
Seventh Circle - Creators- I would think Dynara.

Yep, that is all I found out, yep

Also, Terentia came about like how Lisaera appeared within Lusternia, within her Fulcrux within the Peak. She is a Warrior Goddess, you can tell if you find out what Circle she is, and there are numerous theories on what she represents. Us mortals like to name things don't we?

And I decided to post a bit, yes, quite a bit, but Auseklis said I could so I did.