I was under the impression that we weren't supposed to work with either..

B ) Only if you define "strong" as combatworthy in this sense, actually. Although, yeah, time limits. Less contesting would be good, no matter how poor a leader he is.

D ) Odd, I didn't like totems. That might just be me wanting to have cool skills that do stuff I can see rather than cool skills that do stuff that just sits there Which is odd, considering knowing me you'd think I'd like things to do themselves so I don't have to put up with figuring it all out. Y'all know it's beyond my feeble brain to memorise more than like 3 skills.

Nikua has been contested twice in almost 6 years. That is hardly ever other month. The fact he won the last election does not mean he was the popular candidate as more than half the voters were voting against Nikua. *Again mutters about independants splitting votes*

Anybody who did not foresee Gregori contesting when the time was right to do so needs their head examined. Gregori was the next likely candidate to win and was waiting to see what happened instead of rushing to contest, however Jalain contesting right away made that time come alot sooner than expected, hoped for, or planned for. Gregori really does not want to see Jalain as leader, and he does not feel Nikua is a good leader. The fact that Selthar ran just means he has no foresight and that's just life.

Senx, I find it funny you berating people for contesting when you sent me a message here, and then tried in tells to get Gregori to convince his supporters to follow you so you could contest yourself. Stop sulking because nobody has a clue who you are and your contesting would have been about as fruitful as Jalain's.

The contests dont need a time limit, they just need to be handled like real elections. Have it own down to two candidates by the end. Not all the lost people who want rope bridges for easier weevil sales.

If Cronus is getting irritated, perhaps he should try doing something about it. I do not intend to hold the hands of the Commune through everything, and I expect Auseklis feels the same.

Mortal problems, mortal solutions.

Ok, the reason I want to see Ackleberry is because I expect it will allow people with different philosophies but still seeking a forest commune to separate, and the snugglies/freedom-seekers will most likely head to that forest. Of course I'd prefer us to be capable of making a definite sort of stance now, but clearly we have too many disparate ideas.


My character tries very hard not to join in on arguments or mud-slinging, and I've certainly never attacked Nikua personally. I do regret it if he isn't having fun.

From what I've seen however, even with the arguments, all we hear from many (not all) leaders is endless berating. "The whole lot of you are useless, you all just argue for no reason, none of you care about the commune, you're all lazy and you don't really contribute anything, you all like to hurt those of us in power, none of you deserve what we do for you, we do everything and you just question us at every turn."

Maybe that's not really representative, but thats the impression that my character has received. No wonder no-one is willing to join together and actually progress the commune, when all we hear is how worthless we are, from the leaders themselves! I understand it can be frustrating, but is it really a surprise that there is still so much division?


Freya, are you separating ooc from ic? I don't think we should starting hating the cities like celest vs magnagora or magnagora vs celest... but we should completely distrust/dislike them and avoid helping them in any way either directly or indirectly. And the reason we have seriously lost faith in them now is because they caused the taint, not because they're not close enough to nature for us or something.

I think my point is that currently we don't hate -anything-. We're just there to get what we can, whatever opportunity presents itself. We have no sense of pride in ourselves. Perhaps you could suggest an alternative though, if you feel my take on things is naive?

And Gwylifar, well said.

Hey now, no need to be unfriendly

I was just sort of disappointed that the 3 people who contested didn't really offer the alternative I was hoping to see(After I decided not to run).

Who are you again?

Did you decide not to run after you saw Gregori wouldn't support you and you realised you couldn't win?

Nah, I decided not to run because I'd rather go on a little more than just ideals Just building up a nice support structure for now.

Ok, I have a question that goes back to the Taint issue.

Didn't Auseklis say that the taint is now just another part OF nature? Wouldn't that mean that, while it may have done bad when Kethuru had control, it is now fairly benign?

My char, Furloch, who is a hopeful follower of Auseklis, has the opinion that the Taint is not the problem. It is a neutral force which is only made evil by those who wield it. It is a tool of change, yes, but change doesn't have to be bad. His problem with Magnagora is that they are using it in a negative way, but with Kethuru being out of it, the taint itself isn't bad. It may be like poison, as someone compared it with.. but.. Nature makes poison too. Nature kills. Nature evolves. Nature and the Taint are really similar.. and both gain their alignment based on how they are represented/wielded (hurricanes in Florida or volcanos, as a RL example seem sort of bad, while rain brings about growth), just as with any power.

I can understand Serenwilde being against Glomdoring because Crow and White Hart have some sort of sibling rivalry going on now, lol, but, as for the taint in general, I don't see it as being a MUST for forestrals in general as it is, in itself, not "evil". And it would seem, if Lord Auseklis states it, then Serenwilders can also have the opinion but still be true to their RP, after all, Night and Crow were corrupted by Kethuru, and he got ousted from the Taint.

It would be sort of like saying "Well, Lolly Pringle is evil because he tricked all those people he talked to!" when, others would respond "Wasn't be being controlled by the Emperor?"

Taint = Lolly Pringle
Kethuru = Emperor

Just some thoughts.

Senx, what was the alternative you were looking for? I was trying to cover a lot of ground in my contesting post, and I probably left something out.

Fallen, you're right. I believe Auseklis has commented many times that he doesn't care about today's Taint, (although, him and the other Gods are still scared of Kethuru and the Soulless). It's cities that he doesn't like.

On the other hand, I am against the Taint, and slightly more sympathetic to cities.

Neither of Us, however, are going to dictate to the Commune exactly what path they should be taking, though We may give our opinions strongly.

I was going to mention you, Lisaera, but I haven't investigated your realm as much as Auseklis, so I wasn't sure. I remember you talking a few times about how you were anti-Taint.

Rule one about contesting post - short and sweet. Minimize competition, and quite briefly say why the current leadership should be defeated, and you should win.

Brevity is the soul of wit. At least, I think that's the expression.