No mortal Magnagoran ever wanted a war with Serenwilde...no mortal Magnagoran wanted to raise crow and aggrevate Serenwilde for just that reason.

Amen!

Edit: Not that they need any of that against me.

Wow. It's amazing how far hijacked posts can go from the original topic.

Jalain, perhaps they had some other way to get the centaurs to follow them.... or just got the timing down, and fed them right as more room in their stomachs freed up :eye:

I can't fight anymore, I can't bash anymore, I can't influence anymore, I can't do shit anymore, just cause some divine told us to go piss off serenwilde, fully knowing they dominate alchemy...I think I'll follow rafael and saraxus back to achaea, nothing left to do here.

I said that part already. It's a valid point. Stop trying to insult things just because you don't like them. Find a point to argue from and argue sensibly. Saying it isn't right because you don't like it, or it seems unfair at one glance isn't going to win you anything.



Yes, and it totally ruined the point of having the skill. If you can't control the skillchoice you take, what's the point of having it? Every trade tends to mitigate towards a 'negotiatied price treaty' of some sort. Whether this works or not, it is a goal of almost every organized trade, anywhere.



Not in the begining it wasn't. Rogues happen over time. Achaea has had a very very long time to be open. Lusternia hasn't even been open for 4 months yet.



There's nothing fun in being neutral, minus the ability to sell to anyone, and do anything you want with the continual contribution of being neutral. It actually made me wonder in Achaea. Oakstone would have Ashtan, or eventually Mhaldor, exterminate the forests. Shallam wouldn't. Yet they would 'remain neutral'. It's only logical to eventually side with the force that does not harm you. Druids who went to live in Mhaldor made little sense. Their entire skillset stems from loving the forests and simultaneously they would side with those who hurt the forests.

Dude, you just prove my point about you being retarded over and over, normally I don't insult, but you're just asking for it...there CANNOT AND NEVER WILL BE BLOODY ROGUE ALCHEMISTS IN LUSTERNIA!

Thorgal, present valid arguments and stop insulting people without due cause, or don't bother posting at all. Calling someone a retard reflects worse on you than on them.

I sincerely doubt that when Gloriana/Glomdoring, and Ackleberry come that they won't have Alembics. I also doubt that they will have the exact same ideals as the Serenwilde.

Someone saw her do it, and they tried to do it themself just a second before.

I'm still puzzled by the centaur colt thing and about the grass you can feed it. Also, stop complaining about the alchemy ban. You made your beds and now you sleep in them

Actually, I did no such thing. Kaervas and Guido raised Crow. I was sitting in Magnagora, started seeing people dying everywhere, walked in to see what was going on and got jumped due to people's paranoia. Do not attempt to make claims when you have no idea what you're talking about.

I have to agree that this war is very stupid. Upon joining Magnagora, a newbie fresh to the game will find themself:

Forbidden to enter 1-2 of the 3 major cities. Punishable by death.

Forbidden to enter 3 of the non-prime 6 planes. Punishable by death.

Unable to buy any sort of potion except a few for a huge price at Bob.

A bit discouraging, eh? And if a newbie goes to Celest or the Serenwilde it will be almost as bad.

Yes, I was fully aware of Serenwilde's alchemy monopoly but I was given a mission, and Serenwilde stands in the way. But just to reverse the scenarios a bit, what if Magnagora had a monopoly on forging. And armour and weapons decayed based on use, instead of time. Would it be fair if Magnagora and another city state went to war, and because Mag controlled forging, they were able to deprive their opponents of the tools they need to fight.

I would agree if it was just serenwilde vs mag. Celest is willing to forge for serenwilde all the time

You are ignoring my analogy, I meant what if no one else but Magnagora could forge.

No, I understood your analogy and agreed on it. Just wanted to make another point

If the said city-state didn't start the war against Magnagora, no it wouldn't be fair. The war already has a set victor in that case, though decay time based on use would judge the duration (Not that it mattered in this example, just saying).

If the war didn't have a purpose anyway. If it does then, well.. you do what's necessary, provided you can bring a swift end to it. (Edit)

What else should I call someone that says alchemy domination is perfectly fair and normal, and actually BELIEVES what he's saying? I'd call him evil or cunning if he'd say it on purpose, knowing he's lying, but I'm convinced he really does believe it's fair.

If I see a man run into a wall over and over and over, trying to walk through it, I call that man a retard as well.

*offers popcorn to Shiri, then sits back to enjoy the show*

In other IRE games, the only reason one group having the power over refills, was viable, was that groups neutrality. For something so pivotal to the game, and important in nearly every aspect of playing, it has to be readily available to everyone at a decent price. The moment this ceases, and becomes unlikely, You start losing players. One group of players, should NOT have the ability to stop other groups even doing the most basic things. Seasone was put in to largely negate this risk, but still allow the group some control. Furthermore, the group of forestals on the other IRE games have never been supposedly totally opposed to any one other group. Necromancers using exterminate, for the large part, has been rare - Often just rogues, or the such, using it.

Serenwildes lack of neutrality, and supposed hatred toward all cities, means it's not suitable to hold monopoly on something so vital to the playerbase, because it's gonna lessen the playerbase if it sticks to it's role.

And we all know, less players, means less credit purchases. Hell, if I joined as a newbie magnagora right now, and saw serenwilde had control of something so vital... I'd probably be put off and leave pretty quick.