Melanchthon2005-01-03 20:15:20
So, Greater Pentagram. Nice Trans Highmagic skill, costs 10 power, keeps anyone from entering your room.
Sort of.
They can Flow in.
They can Sprint in.
They can Tumble in.
They can mount jump in.
They can Burrow in.
Can they Roll in? Maybe, haven't tested that one.
But, I know that they can't walk in! That makes me feel better.
Sort of.
Sort of.
They can Flow in.
They can Sprint in.
They can Tumble in.
They can mount jump in.
They can Burrow in.
Can they Roll in? Maybe, haven't tested that one.
But, I know that they can't walk in! That makes me feel better.
Sort of.
Unknown2005-01-03 20:20:55
This remind me of an Invader Zim episode where he is talking to the Tallest about his extreme security system, and they see something on the screen, which turns out to be a baby. But a super alien baby. *nod me*
Unknown2005-01-04 00:42:41
I think it is more useful at preventing someone escaping. And it is way better then the transcendent lowmagic ability. It is a prismatic barrier that costs 10p. Don't smile though, or you'll lose it, and way to many attacks go through it, so it is worthless anyway.
Unknown2005-01-04 00:48:50
great pentagram does need some work.
Geb2005-01-04 00:50:55
QUOTE(Anonymous @ Jan 4 2005, 01:42 AM)
I think it is more useful at preventing someone escaping. And it is way better then the transcendent lowmagic ability. It is a prismatic barrier that costs 10p. Don't smile though, or you'll lose it, and way to many attacks go through it, so it is worthless anyway.
24686
Greater pentagram does not stop anyone from leaving a room. Anyone can leave out freely.
Unknown2005-01-04 01:38:39
I had believed it prevented anyone from crossing the borders of the room, untill you cross them yourself. Meaning they can't leave either. Seems like it stopped me from leaving.
Shiri2005-01-04 01:43:40
You probably got carcer'd as well.
Roark2005-01-04 04:01:49
One of our new coders (woo! I've got assistants now!) was looking into this today. I believe it is fixed.
Unknown2005-01-04 04:18:44
so now, no one can enter the great pentagram if you have a monolith in the room your in?
Graal2005-01-04 04:55:48
You can still sprint -through- it , though if someone in it is blocking the exit you're going to sprint through you wind up on the outside of it .
Unknown2005-01-04 04:57:19
You can gust people through it as well.
Daganev2005-01-04 04:58:14
spring allows you to go through everyting in the room till you reach the end.. Its much more than just a highway jumper.
Unknown2005-01-04 09:19:38
QUOTE(roark @ Jan 3 2005, 06:01 PM)
One of our new coders (woo! I've got assistants now!) was looking into this today. I believe it is fixed.
24774
Woo! Can they fix Serpent (Prismatic Barrier) now? Nihilist and Celestine entities strike through it, along with way to many other things, for a power cost of 10p. Maybe it could ignore emotes and simple actions too, and not fade away. I mean come on, it is the transcendent Lowmagic ability, costs 10p, and is worthless. I'd love to have greater pentagram
Edit: And greater pentagram is fixed, I ran into one today, was greatly dismayed when I couldn't leap in, or burrow in, meh.
Val2005-01-04 14:19:20
Might want to retest prism. I saw someone using it a couple days ago, seemed just fine. Ents didn't stop it, they all hit the shield. Day before that I saw someone use trueheal bashing with me on astral, mobs didn't even void it.
Melanchthon2005-01-07 16:46:32
QUOTE(Anonymous @ Jan 4 2005, 09:19 AM)
Edit: And greater pentagram is fixed, I ran into one today, was greatly dismayed when I couldn't leap in, or burrow in, meh.
Too bad that didn't stop you and Narsrim from Moonbeaming in, as well.
Narsrim2005-01-07 17:16:52
QUOTE(roark @ Jan 4 2005, 12:01 AM)
One of our new coders (woo! I've got assistants now!) was looking into this today. I believe it is fixed.
24774
I must say, fixed is a really bad term to use. *spanks new coder* With the change, -nothing- gets through greater pentagram. Thus, this skill has morphed from being a rather useful defensive skill to the ULTIMATE QUEST BLOCKING/BOTCHING skill of all time.
Theoretical examples:
I create a Serenguard and obtain trans highmagic. I place this warrior in the room of Rowena in Glomdoring. I cast greater pentagram. I sit on my ass for hours on end and the entire time, Magnagora nor anyone can do a sole Crow quest.
I create a Paladin and obtain trans highmagic and trans sacraments. I walk into Magnagora to the Megalith. I cast greater pentagram (obviously, I would wait till the room was empty). I regenerate 10p. I sit then I cast truheal (which gives a prismatic-ish barrier, just like trans lowmagic). Until I quit, Magnagora is blocked from its nexus. If someone can get into the room, they can have a great time bouncing off my unbreakable shield.
The list goes on and on as I can come up with several creative scenarios that topple these two but I'll save those for a rainy day if it stays as is. However, it is a sad day when sitting on your ass becomes the single most powerful strategy.
Unknown2005-01-07 17:18:32
Edit: Ah, Trueheal, saw that. Make it so city guards can void it?
Edit2: And what would be your point as a character? Pissing people off? How long could you stay on (and not afk) at a time?
Edit2: And what would be your point as a character? Pissing people off? How long could you stay on (and not afk) at a time?
Melanchthon2005-01-07 17:31:27
QUOTE(Narsrim @ Jan 7 2005, 05:16 PM)
I must say, fixed is a really bad term to use. *spanks new coder* With the change, -nothing- gets through greater pentagram. Thus, this skill has morphed from being a rather useful defensive skill to the ULTIMATE QUEST BLOCKING/BOTCHING skill of all time.
Well, as I see it, the counter to Greater Pentagram is to send ranged attacks in to it, or lure someone out of it. You can also legitimately sprint through or burrow past one, as well as teleport in normally, though I think that last may be miswoven.
Unknown2005-01-07 17:35:05
Because they can't, Trueheal's Prism is the most strongest magical shield of Pentagram, Prsim and others.
Terenas2005-01-07 17:44:17
QUOTE(Melanchthon @ Jan 7 2005, 05:31 PM)
Well, as I see it, the counter to Greater Pentagram is to send ranged attacks in to it, or lure someone out of it. You can also legitimately sprint through or burrow past one, as well as teleport in normally, though I think that last may be miswoven.
26531
Unfortunately only Magi and Moondancers have ranged attacks, and those are easily stopped by a shield. Theoretically you can send in an angel, demon, or faes to break the shield then attack, but again, they can reshield. If Lusternia had stars tarot, that might be useful in that scenario.