Unknown2005-01-05 14:37:14
QUOTE(Eiru @ Jan 5 2005, 04:34 AM)
Actually I believe we were IN the room with Brennan when they flowed to us with a greater pentagram up, no matter that they suffered losses, all they had to do was kill him, we almost lost several hours of effort because of that.
And about the colts, I was told that it's a quest no more recent than the one we have in Magnagora to cage them, but they are hardly comparable. We either get the colts from it's mother, or we have to go to Serenwilde and take them back, I don't know if we can get spaceships to go over to Serenwilde and beam them up yet heh. They on the other hand can do it safely, it doesn't matter if they can do it only once every 6 or 8 hours, the point is we have to go through their defenses to get the colts if they're keeping them in Serenwilde, and we have to wait a whole real day for a new moon, so they have more than enough time if it can be done even every 8 hours and timed it right.
And about the colts, I was told that it's a quest no more recent than the one we have in Magnagora to cage them, but they are hardly comparable. We either get the colts from it's mother, or we have to go to Serenwilde and take them back, I don't know if we can get spaceships to go over to Serenwilde and beam them up yet heh. They on the other hand can do it safely, it doesn't matter if they can do it only once every 6 or 8 hours, the point is we have to go through their defenses to get the colts if they're keeping them in Serenwilde, and we have to wait a whole real day for a new moon, so they have more than enough time if it can be done even every 8 hours and timed it right.
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What defenses? They are in the hills no? The hills are not forest, therefore no totems, no flow, and no wisp.
Unknown2005-01-05 14:37:18
Well, I'm going to ignore Tuek and Thorgal having their cat-fight in the corner and direct this purely to Daevos.
I think part of what could justify one quest being harder to do than the other is that White Hart is a Great Spirit of Serenwilde. OOCly speaking, he's a very integral part of Serenwilde.
Crow doesn't exactly have the same relationship with Magnagora. If it was White Hart vs Necromentate I would say it should be fair in difficulty, both ways.
I think part of what could justify one quest being harder to do than the other is that White Hart is a Great Spirit of Serenwilde. OOCly speaking, he's a very integral part of Serenwilde.
Crow doesn't exactly have the same relationship with Magnagora. If it was White Hart vs Necromentate I would say it should be fair in difficulty, both ways.
Unknown2005-01-05 14:37:44
You forget something, once crow is raised, we are at a massive disadvantage, which Magnagora arent if White Hart is alive. So we pretty much have to kill him once he is summoned, however killing crow is harder than raising him, by a long way. On top of this, how is mobs that freely roam about a place we cant defend, even comparable to a guarded, statued cage in the centre of a guarded, statued city?
Unknown2005-01-05 14:38:56
QUOTE(Thorgal @ Jan 5 2005, 04:34 AM)
Serenwilde doesn't have to place themselves in any kind of danger now.
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And prior, we had to place ourselves deep inside of Magnagora, somehow walk past a totem and around 15 guards (And usually a greater pentagram). One extreme to the next I suppose you could say?
Unknown2005-01-05 14:40:26
QUOTE(JeebusGreen @ Jan 5 2005, 04:37 AM)
Well, I'm going to ignore Tuek and Thorgal having their cat-fight in the corner and direct this purely to Daevos.
I think part of what could justify one quest being harder to do than the other is that White Hart is a Great Spirit of Serenwilde. OOCly speaking, he's a very integral part of Serenwilde.
Crow doesn't exactly have the same relationship with Magnagora. If it was White Hart vs Necromentate I would say it should be fair in difficulty, both ways.
I think part of what could justify one quest being harder to do than the other is that White Hart is a Great Spirit of Serenwilde. OOCly speaking, he's a very integral part of Serenwilde.
Crow doesn't exactly have the same relationship with Magnagora. If it was White Hart vs Necromentate I would say it should be fair in difficulty, both ways.
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Exactly! That is exactly my point. It isn't as if we can destroy the Necromentate, whereas they have an outside quest to destroy White Hart. Whereas if they fail, big deal, nothing happens to them, and they lose nothing by Crow being destroyed.
Elryn2005-01-05 14:57:39
Let me first offer my opinion. With all due respect, what makes anyone think Magnagora should have a quest to steal the centaurs of Serenwilde? Why should it be easy (if even possible) for them to take Serenwilde mobiles captive? Why can't Serenwilde take captive all the , so that Magnagora has to push past all our guards to get them? Why can't Celest take captive all the Necrodoobies so Magnagora doesn't have any to lead to their seals?
To me, some of the recent events have smacked of Someone gently guiding Magnagora so they can't fail in their goal. Now, I'm from Serenwilde, so I see the recent events in light of what we can do to stop them, (that is, to keep the status quo). Yet I can still see how Magnagora have had to fight to achieve each step, no matter what help they were or were not given. I may be wrong, but there has been great efforts on both sides; can we please stop and think for a moment before complaining everyone else has it sooo much easier than us, without thinking logically about things?
To me, some of the recent events have smacked of Someone gently guiding Magnagora so they can't fail in their goal. Now, I'm from Serenwilde, so I see the recent events in light of what we can do to stop them, (that is, to keep the status quo). Yet I can still see how Magnagora have had to fight to achieve each step, no matter what help they were or were not given. I may be wrong, but there has been great efforts on both sides; can we please stop and think for a moment before complaining everyone else has it sooo much easier than us, without thinking logically about things?
Daevos2005-01-05 14:59:19
QUOTE(Anonymous @ Jan 5 2005, 02:37 PM)
What defenses? They are in the hills no? The hills are not forest, therefore no totems, no flow, and no wisp.
25360
That can be fixed easily, by having a Druid forest the hills, whats ridiculous is that they are in Serenwilde. And you are ignoring how much work we will actually have to do to raise Crow completely, three new moons, 96 hours at the very least. Also the number of flasks needed to get the grass was increased.
Unknown2005-01-05 15:08:46
QUOTE(Daevos @ Jan 5 2005, 04:59 AM)
That can be fixed easily, by having a Druid forest the hills
25366
That can be fixed easily, by having a Geomancer taint the hills.
I fail to see your point.
Erion2005-01-05 15:10:17
See, Daevos. What you're missing is, if Magnagora ravages the Seren like they did Celest, there'll be a big drop in player-base. So everything has to be slanted. 'Sides, Magnagora has too many good strong fighters as it is. (/sarcasm)
I guess they should be forced to do something that involves much time and effort, that they have little personal gain beyond a possibility of weakening their enemy, and only then seeing RL days worth of work smashed because they could get enough novices together to attack a mob at once, totally screwing the effort involved.
I guess they should be forced to do something that involves much time and effort, that they have little personal gain beyond a possibility of weakening their enemy, and only then seeing RL days worth of work smashed because they could get enough novices together to attack a mob at once, totally screwing the effort involved.
Daevos2005-01-05 15:11:15
Thats the thing, we dont care about weakening Serenwilde.
Unknown2005-01-05 15:13:04
QUOTE(Daevos @ Jan 5 2005, 05:11 AM)
Thats the thing, we dont care about weakening Serenwilde.
25369
Then what are you trying to do? You often state, "I'm on a mission." or "We have a goal." and "Serenwilde is in the way of that goal" yet you never actually state what that goal/purpose/mission is. I'm curious.
Erion2005-01-05 15:13:41
Ain't it obvious? Empowerment and spread of the Taint. 
Come on. Not that thick-skulled, are we?
Come on. Not that thick-skulled, are we?Amaru2005-01-05 15:15:41
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Man it must be tough being Magnagoran.
Unknown2005-01-05 15:17:23
Seriously Tuek, you have to have figured out what they are upto by now.
Unknown2005-01-05 15:17:23
QUOTE(Erion @ Jan 5 2005, 05:13 AM)
Ain't it obvious? Empowerment and spread of the Taint.  Come on. Not that thick-skulled, are we?
 Come on. Not that thick-skulled, are we?25371
That is granted, empowerment and spread of the Taint. Daevos has alluded to more then that however, and that is what I am curious about.
Niara2005-01-05 15:22:59
Uhm, it was your idea to screw Serenwilde, Daevos. You had immortal support, which is fine and now we finally found a way to spoil your efforts...my, really nasty. Also, what some people here forget...you don't have to attack Serenwilde. As you maybe already noticed Serenwilde doesn't want anything from Magnagora, except for the colts of course right now. And your claim that it is so easy...well, claim what you want. Only good that it is just you who spends hours after hours to achieve something.
Eiru2005-01-05 15:24:39
QUOTE(Anonymous @ Jan 5 2005, 02:37 PM)
What defenses? They are in the hills no? The hills are not forest, therefore no totems, no flow, and no wisp.
25360
So, you don't keep them in Serenwilde at all?
Unknown2005-01-05 15:27:31
We can't keep them anywhere, they move of their own accord
Thorgal2005-01-05 15:27:42
The colts roam around the entire area, from Mother till the centaur hills, seeing how the forest is larger than the centaur hills, they won't be out of their protection much.
Thorgal2005-01-05 15:37:48
QUOTE(Niara @ Jan 5 2005, 05:22 PM)
And your claim that it is so easy...well, claim what you want. Only good that it is just you who spends hours after hours to achieve something.
25378
So you're saying, no matter how much effort we put into it, it's only natural Serenwilde wins?
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