They go back and forth with Magnagora losing power, and having to actually invade Serenwilde all the time, while you dont. And its not our fault that you didnt have the foresight to put guards there, but now you will, and you've already demensed it. Your advantages in the forest can not be denied either.

I have a question please This thread is growing at breakneck speed but I hope that someone can answer it.

So there is a quest for Magnagora to weaken Celests' power, and a quest for Celest to weaken Magnagora's power, and this is a quest for Magnagora to weaken Serenwilde's power.

Question is, can Serenwilde to the celest quest to weaken magnagora's power? If they can then saying Serenwilde deserves advantage because they can't strike magnagora back like this is untrue. If they can't do it then I'd agree that Serenwilde deserves an advantage here.

Seriously... take a break from Lusternia for a bit, get some sleep. 10-15 hours of text-MUD questing has got to be taking its toll on your love-lives...

Yes, they can do Celest's quest to weakened us, they have already tried it twice. Just werent strong enough to succeed. They can also do the quest to weaken our Necromentate.

Attacking either city's nexus is reliant on killing the Supernals/Demon Lords. It's not easy to do and it requires alot of people who are high level to kill them. Not a 5 minute quest that docks power.

Right. Why not ask Narsrim how much he liked dying repeatedly to finally retrieve 2 colts, only to have them stolen back from a untotemable location in the hills because the colts could be fed by one side but not another when they were full?

Although to be fair, you may not have known about that effort because he didn't post on the forums complaining about it.

I think I'm going to go to the Aetolia forum away from all this bitching before my head explodes.

Dumihru, one scenario is not enough to make up for the constant work the leadership of Magnagora does. Now that you mention Narsrim, perhaps you can ask him to explain how that felt and then you'll understand what it's like to be a Magnagoran trying to succeed.

Have you been listening? I've just read every word in this thread (to my chagrin), and one common element I see is that a lot of this is based on assumptions of what the other side can or cannot do and how hard or easy their quest may be. Magnagorans don't know for certain how easy or hard the Serenwilde quest to retrieve colts is, and Serens don't know how easy or hard it is for you to capture colts.

Both sides feel slighted because they are familiar with their own weaknesses and how the other side can overcome them easily. That's my opinion.

Yeah. Must be hard to reach the books on the top shelf when you're a maggot... If only I could understand the hardship...

Honestly, there are a lot of Serenwilders that do a lot of work, too. But seeing as it's normally Magnagora trying to do somethinng against Serenwilde, we have to spend a lot of time waiting, watching, responding, instead of running about questing.

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There is no other quest in the game that can attack a city/commune's nexus that quickly.

The truth of the matter is that both sides are working around the clock, not just one. As the colt quest came out of no where to give Magnagora a chance to spread their influence and directly attack Serenwilde, how does it not make sense that Serenwilde shouldn't be allowed to have another quest to counter that? And as Magnagorans have demonstrated time and again, it's not that hard to capture all the colts since they roam around so much. When Crow was raised and the Mother Tree lost 5000 essence even though a bunch of Serenwilders just risked killing Brennan not more than an hour ago. That's not fair either, but we dealt with it.

I highlighted one effort to make a point -- The effort put into this by Magnagoran characters is admirable. However, there has also been a lot of effort on the Serenwilde side that is also admirable but is likely not known by the opposing side because it hasn't been made visible (e.g. on an OOC forum).

There has also been frustration on both sides, and venting is completely understandable. I just kind of hope that this doesn't prevent divines from supporting events like these in the future.

From a completely OOC perspective, the back and forth that events cause is really interesting I really appreciate the efforts that both the divine and the players involved put into making it so.

I didnt know it drained power from Serenwilde, but then again its a extremely hard quest that can only be done once every 32 hours.

1) I was watching Narsrim, flying in, dropping, sprinting, giving grass and snorting spores in one fluid motion netted him those colts. You attempted something similar by dancing down a moonbeam to me while I was on a monolith, indoors, at NOON. (By the way, was it just a screw up on your part not to hand off the grass before snorting or just my dumbluck you didn't get one?) Each time we had to adjust our tactics to make sure the seren couldn't get past us. As for complaining about the Great Pentagrams... someone had to sit there holding them up the entire time, watching the room scroll by with the demesne defenses. I'm sorry we took the time and were dedicated to trying to accomplish our goals and wouldn't give them back to you just because you asked.


About the Coltshills not being defendable:

2) I was scouting for the colts in the colthills right after the first one was stolen. I kept running into Ialie's demesne so it's got some defense. Then out of nowhere I got wisped, yes I got wisped while in the colthills, to Narsrim who was standing on a totem and proceeded to beat down on me. So either A) you can wisp out of the foothills, or B) You can totem them. Which was it? I wasn't lusting for him either so I'm a bit confused when I know I was in the colthills and I know he wisped me.

Well, it could be worse. Magnagora is trying harder, Magnagora is still winning. If this were Imperian Brona and Valek would be shrubs etc. and Magnagora would have no villages whilst the gods mocked us, literally. I'm not bothered by this turn of events, though I suppose I didn't spend hours standing at the zoo for nothing either...

Is there any point in standing at the zoo now?

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Seems pretty damn easy to me, especially since I havent seen a Serenwilder out of Serenwilde.

The thing is, in the end, Mag had it easier to begin with, now we have it easier, and tomorrow who knows Celest could blow up the forest. happens. We live with it.

Apparently the Divine just don't want anything to happen to make it not fun for Serenwilde or Celest because it's damn sure they don't want Magnagora getting anywhere.

I cant believe you said that, have you seen the full Crow quest? Have you compared against the relevant Hart quests? And you dare to say we had it easy...