Overly Offensive Mafia

by Casilu

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Unknown2011-08-12 18:32:46
butbutbut It DID help determine that, at least to me, because I'm town and showed up as town in both answers. :((((

WHY WON'T YOU JERKS BELIEVE ME God damnit Casi you totally did this to me on purpose didn't you
Ssaliss2011-08-12 19:20:13
The first two questions were, most definitely, not fine. It would have been entirely possible to get six names of people, none of which we knew if they were in the game or not, which would only point out that three people had lied about who they were. Something which, of course, was already known. Say we had gotten the answers "The FCC, Jack, and the Doctor" from one voice, and "Stephen Fry, Alan Davies, and Jo Brand" from the other. This would tell us absolutely nothing about who the remaining scum are, even if we know which voice was telling the truth.
Unknown2011-08-12 19:39:28
QUOTE (Ssaliss @ Aug 12 2011, 03:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The first two questions were, most definitely, not fine. It would have been entirely possible to get six names of people, none of which we knew if they were in the game or not, which would only point out that three people had lied about who they were. Something which, of course, was already known. Say we had gotten the answers "The FCC, Jack, and the Doctor" from one voice, and "Stephen Fry, Alan Davies, and Jo Brand" from the other. This would tell us absolutely nothing about who the remaining scum are, even if we know which voice was telling the truth.

I beg to differ. There was a mass claim previously, and several claims showed up in the answers.

Though you won't agree I'm sure. Anyway, I'm pretty sure you won't be able to lynch me either way because no one else is as blinded by paranoia as you are, so can you please give it up and help do something constructive?
Ssaliss2011-08-12 19:46:15
If you had gotten my two sets of answers (which were, of course, entirely possible) and was told that answer A is true... what would that tell you? Only that three people lied, which we already knew. Thus, the question itself was, at the very least, flawed.

I'm certainly up for doing something productive though. What did you have in mind, more precisely? Lynch the person you propose we lynch?
Unknown2011-08-12 19:55:44
Ssaliss is playing his own game here. suspicious.gif
Ssaliss2011-08-12 20:07:55
I'm not saying "I'll never follow anyone's lead", but jumping on the bandwagon that two people I believe are scum are on would not be the best course of action, really.
Unknown2011-08-12 21:38:02
QUOTE (Ssaliss @ Aug 12 2011, 04:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If you had gotten my two sets of answers (which were, of course, entirely possible) and was told that answer A is true... what would that tell you? Only that three people lied, which we already knew. Thus, the question itself was, at the very least, flawed.

I'm certainly up for doing something productive though. What did you have in mind, more precisely? Lynch the person you propose we lynch?

Yes. Ilyssa's like a Sentinel or something, and they're always up to no good. Proof: Casilu is a founder and made this ridiculously confusing Mafia setup :/
Casilu2011-08-12 21:40:25
QUOTE (Akeley @ Aug 12 2011, 02:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Proof: Casilu is a founder and made this ridiculously confusing Mafia setup :/



This is nothing. Really. I once had a 60 page day one, I think.
Ssaliss2011-08-12 23:51:44
QUOTE (Akeley @ Aug 12 2011, 11:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yes. Ilyssa's like a Sentinel or something, and they're always up to no good. Proof: Casilu is a founder and made this ridiculously confusing Mafia setup :/

What, more precisely, makes you think she's a Sentinel?
Casilu2011-08-12 23:54:40
QUOTE (Ssaliss @ Aug 12 2011, 04:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
What, more precisely, makes you think she's a Sentinel?



HONOURS ILYSSA
Jack2011-08-13 04:41:31
QUOTE (casilu @ Aug 12 2011, 10:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This is nothing. Really. I once had a 60 page day one, I think.

I'd shiv a chipmunk in the nutsack for that kind of activity in a mafia game, srsly.
Casilu2011-08-13 05:07:25
QUOTE (Jack @ Aug 12 2011, 09:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'd shiv a chipmunk in the nutsack for that kind of activity in a mafia game, srsly.


It was utter chaos. (I had four serial killers and no mafia. Also, I think that was the first appearance of my Deathnote serial killer.)
Jack2011-08-13 07:20:45
The gay one with a fringe, or the awesome one who screams DELETE! DELETE! and commits suicide with a pen?
Unknown2011-08-13 11:52:16
Yotz. It was frelling insane. And I learned to never frelling ever guess the Casilu mod.

Now stop frelling going off topic people.
Unknown2011-08-13 15:48:26
If 2/3 of Xikue, Llesvelt, and Jack vote for Ilyssa we'll be fine. Ssaliss isn't going to vote for anyone but me for some reason, and Ilyssa's not gonna vote for himself. Unless >= 2/3 of the people I mentioned are scum and Ilyssa is too, in which case we need Ssaliss, but are screwed because he thinks I'm scum. :/

Break the deadlock!

(also, the fact that only Phoebus and I are voting for Ilyssa makes me more sure that he is, in fact, a scumbag.)
Ilyssa2011-08-13 15:59:23
QUOTE (Akeley @ Aug 13 2011, 11:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
(also, the fact that only Phoebus and I are voting for Ilyssa makes me more sure that he is, in fact, a scumbag.)

... How?
Jack2011-08-13 16:12:47
QUOTE (Akeley @ Aug 13 2011, 04:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If 2/3 of Xikue, Llesvelt, and Jack vote for Ilyssa we'll be fine. Ssaliss isn't going to vote for anyone but me for some reason

I dunno, I think Ssaliss voted for me earlier on too... woo

Can we recap the reasoning for going after Ilyssa, again? I really don't want to trawl through the thread again reading through (largely self-created) pointless doggerel. If we're predicating it on that question you asked, I'm going to need some more conclusive evidence, because I still think that ability was a bit too cut-and-dried to be comfortable with.
Ssaliss2011-08-13 16:30:20
Yeah. I'm voting for Jack, not Akeley.
Unknown2011-08-13 17:38:07
QUOTE (Jack @ Aug 13 2011, 01:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I dunno, I think Ssaliss voted for me earlier on too... woo

Can we recap the reasoning for going after Ilyssa, again? I really don't want to trawl through the thread again reading through (largely self-created) pointless doggerel. If we're predicating it on that question you asked, I'm going to need some more conclusive evidence, because I still think that ability was a bit too cut-and-dried to be comfortable with.

Ilyssa also claimed to have a rez power, and I am less likely to believe him since two others have it apparently, unless everyone's lying. He also claimed the rolename Samurai Jack (wtf?) and he does show up in the question, and could conceivably be the FCC, or the scum rolename Jack, as he has not shown evidence of any power to the contrary, and we already have a dead/lynched vanilla townie and Steven. As the scum apparently have quite powerful roles, as do the townies, I'm inclined to believe that some of the quieter people who haven't shown evidence of powers may in fact be the ones who are scum (bit of a reach there, but hey, what else do we have to go on?). The alternative option is to believe that you're scum, and I'm not willing to do that when you have a rez power, and I also trust you a bit more than these other bastards.

I'm also a bit leery of Xikue, who has continued posting as per her restriction even though I bestowed a restrictionless doctor power on her, though she could be switching people with those she personally thinks is scum in order to take out two birds with one stone and have the mafia kill one of their own (not totally sure if her power works that way). But I'm voting Ilyssa for now, as my gut is leaning that way and Xikue, if she -is- town, is still a valuable commodity assuming we lynch a scum tonight.
Unknown2011-08-13 17:41:59
QUOTE (Ilyssa @ Aug 13 2011, 01:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
... How?

It was a pretty big leap of reasoning (or lack thereof)

At the time, I was thinking that since only two of us were voting for you, you likely weren't town, since scum would probably jump on the lynch train as well, as with four votes someone is lynched, and if that person is a townie the scum win, I'm pretty sure. Unless Ssaliss is right and Phoebus and I are scum (which is impossible because I'm town).

Not the best logic, but hey, it holds a little bit of evidence.