Yotz. On the frelling slim chance we make it through this frelling long day, I'd rather not say.
Frell, I'm wavering on just who the remaining scum are, but Ssaliss has not made very convincing arguments for his innocence.

He hasn't, that's true- but the evidence I'm working off of that marks Ilyssa as scum also marks him as being innocent, so. (To recap: false-voice answered "B: Ssaliss, Kenny, and the person who is being made fun of." for the question of who is scum. I'm Kenny, so I know that's the false voice, and so it also means that Ssaliss and Llesvelt are on the town as well. For the second question of remaining town, true voice listed me and Llesvelt as being innocent, again, and the false listed Ilyssa. So, I believe Ilyssa is scum, and Ssaliss is innocent despite being counterproductive to town's best interests.) Also, I doubt any scum trying to hide in LyLo would be making such a target of themselves, like he is. He's probably scum's best bet of deflecting votes onto, today, which makes me more suspicious of you.

Also, some more things. Ssaliss voted for Xikue originally at the beginning of this day due to the results of Llesvelt's investigation, and Ilyssa was the first to question it. Ssaliss' reasoning was kind of dodgy at that point in time, but after it Akeley said something that I think warrants further investigation in light of more recent events:


It is strange. Xikue was very publicly given the powers of our deceased doctor role, and yet came out of the previous night unscathed. And Llesvelt, our investigator, seems to have been the target of what was either a roleblock or Xikue's legitimate response to being investigated, both of which cast suspicion upon Xikue.

Xikue's first response after the questions immediately tries to make it seem like the voices' meanings are switched, and also protecting Ilyssa.

So, alright, we'll go from there. If Voice A is the voice that told the truth, that makes me, Ssaliss, and Llesvelt confirmed as innocent. It also makes the roles Jack, The FCC, and the Doctor the known roles of scum, and Ilyssa was the name blatantly mentioned as a player name. Originally I thought Jack meant JACK Jack, but then realized that Jack was Ilyssa's role name. Also, if the voices are the opposite of what I've claimed, that would mean that The FCC is a town role, which makes no sense at all.

And this line completely overlooks the fact that the question was REMAINING scum, so that's a moot point, and does little to help Xikue's argument that we shouldn't believe voice A is the truth-telling voice.

After some more discussion, Xikue's reaction to the answers changes from "Voice A is the one that lies" to "The answers obviously just aren't fully true, how dumb do you even have to be not to see that".

I also find it interesting to note that at this point Ssaliss has yet to go completely nuts and start making weird claims. In fact he even believed the scum team included Xikue and Ilyssa at that point! This is where things start going downhill:
Which I laughed at because I'm not that experienced and kind of suck at getting people to listen to me in these games (CAN YOU TELL??). Anyway, once he started going bonkers, Xikue voted for him, and I suspect it's because he isn't really in good graces with either side of the game at the moment, so it isn't terribly suspicious of her to try to get rid of him, and might just get a few town to go along with it.

SO THIS POST ENDED UP GOING ON FOR A LOT LONGER THAN I THOUGHT IT WOULD SORRY ABOUT THAT.

Anyway tl;dr Ilyssa and Xikue are scum and I'm voting for Ilyssa because his name actually showed up for certain in our scum list and if we lynch him and he's scum Xikue would be next on my list.

To Phoebus, certainly I thought Voice A was lying, because, similar to your line of reasoning, I'm the doctor and I'm a frelling townie. But after my initial confusion and reading other people's posts, I realised there must be someone's whose real role name is "the Doctor" (as that's not my name, and the capitalisation seemed significant for the Brains and the Wildcard). Since I'm not mentioned in any of the statements, I haven't any personal accusations to refute based on the answers. I just want to make sure we nail down the right one as truth and get the scummy thoddos.

A few observations. The FCC sounds like they're scum, but Casilu's done stranger things than making the FCC in a raunchy animated show aligned with the town. (Yotz, it sounds ridiculous, but then Casilu always pulls something crazy. There's a twist in this frelling set-up somewhere. Scum who can get out of lynchings?)

I also don't see where this certainty that "Jack" refers to the role name and not the forum name comes from. You're saying "Jack" refers to Ilyssa's role name, thereby making it so that A's true and B is false (because Ilyssa can't be one of the remaining town when named as scum). Sure, this is possible, but there are other valid possibilities. Assuming A is true, "Jack" may refer to Jack, and Ilyssa among the unnamed by voice A in the second question. B is false, so as long as one person referred to (in response to the second question) is scum, the whole statement is rendered false (for this possibility I'd say that's the Doctor). Until all other possibilities are ruled out, there is no one logical solution. That's why I've said the answers aren't helpful and to go with one's gut.

If there was proof you were with the town, I'd unvote Ssaliss. As it is, I'm inclined to remain paranoid of a connection between you two.

Well, Ilyssa claimed Jack as his role, and has stuck by it. Since Jack-the-person has been proven to have at least one lynch immunity up his sleeve, I'm hesitant to go after him today and would rather stick with the safe route of it being IlyssaJack. He's not clear of suspicion from me yet, but this is LyLo and I'd rather stick with what I'm more certain of.

The only connection between me and Ssaliss is that I'm pretty sure he's town, despite his determination to see just how high my facepalm multiplier can go.

Phoebus, the false voice, which you mentioned as proving Ssaliss innocent, simply doesn't. Casilu could have easily added some scum in with the truthful voice and their roles as well as sticking them with a townie by their name in the false voice. Not sure if that was mentioned.

Anyway, I maintain that if the scum were any kind of opportunistic they'd help lynch Ilyssa if Ilyssa was a townie. Two votes on already, and they would basically win if Ilyssa wasn't scum. Can someone prove me wrong on that?

While Xikue is acting suspiciously, I'm as leery of lynching her as I am of lynching Jack, so stick with Ilyssa

I'm also p sure Ssaliss is town. Just also kind of a liability unless his mind clears up. He's schemed it into a knot.

... I like how nothing new has been brought to the table. If you want to see the faults in the reasoning, read back a little to the last time you brought all of this up. :/

I was unconvinced then, and remain so. I feel strongly that you're scum.

Hold on... Nobody even contradicted me last time... What are you talking about?

You didn't do anything besides reiterate what Phoebus said.

I did other stuff too! No one has adequately argued the lack of Ilyssa-lynching by the scum except for Ssaliss, who thinks that I am trying to shut the show down.

Plus I think Phoebus is correct in this case, obviously, so there's that too.

I'm bored. Talk or change votes or something :/

Who has yet to vote?

This is the current standing, I think. Unless Jack voted and I missed it.

Llesvelt put a vote on Jack? Must've missed that one. Anyway, this means that Jack and Ilyssa has yet to vote. What are your thoughts, you two?

Quick, everyone vote for someone else!

Well, we're all in agreement that Jack is scum, as far as I've noticed. How about we lynch him? I severely doubt that he's actually immune to lynching; that would be an extremely powerful power for scum to have, after all.

An extremely stupid power for scum or town to have (as I've pointed out before, so I gotta wonder why you're bringing it up again). It was, obviously, a oneshot. And I don't think we are in agreement that I'm scum - I know that I'm disputing it, and Akeley has said he trusts me. I have to question why you're pushing for a lynch on me (and arguing so vituperously about Akeley's alleged allegiance) when there're better targets out there.

For my part, I'm not entirely convinced Akeley's reasoning (my eye's actually on Phoebus, who I'm unwilling to lynch, and you, Ssaliss, for the sudden burst of vitriol after being fairly reasonable throughout), but in the absence of a better target, I'ma vote: Ilyssa for now - the deciding factor being your sudden hackle-raising aggressiveness. It makes me think it's a smokescreen to throw suspicion onto Ake instead of Ilyssa.

Well, that's a lot to digest - I don't think I'll take the time to write a wallpost, but I will respond to what has been said about multiple votes being on me. Those votes belong to someone who's first action upon entering the game was voting for me, the person who he has taken his (flawed) reasoning from, and the person who we just very highly suspected of being scum a couple days earlier. I have three votes on me. Remind me how many scum we have?

God damn, you guys are grabbing at shadows. I'm not scum. If you have a better target for me to shoot at, convince me.

deadline it