I don't know if I agree. For it to work out, you'd have to discuss it with them slightly OOCly to get them to agree to stand still or whatever. If you go about it right, they might be humilated ICly, but OOCly people would actually gain respect for them for taking part in a more immersive bit of RP.

Thing is, that isn't the situation.

Well, then that would be a problem. Trying to force non-mechanic RP on someone is never good, whether its a punishment or something innocent. But its not because its RPing humilation and punishment. That isn't the part where the problem comes in.

damnit, I thought we were not talking about this?


public humiliation is a one way ticket to Log Off ville.

Unless ofcourse your aim is to make people quit, but thats a different story.

In Achaea, Mhaldor executed its citizens publically in various gruesome ways. It was part and parcel of "dark RP". Some people actually enjoy and expect that - I am one of them.

Disfavours do damage that requires hard work to reverse. RP punishments can simply be fun. RP punishments strike me as a better way of punishing characters for "failures" without punishing the player, saving disfavours for "crimes". It all depends on how it's being acted out. If done properly, the player should simply feel they're going through an RP scenario, not that they personally are being impugned or attacked. Finally, public punishment sure beats marks counted against you in private that you can't do anything about... With public punishment, at least when it's over, it's over.

I think executions are in a completely different class from public humiliation.

Yep. Agreed.

So, um, titling someone "Slave of X" or "Branded Y, Treasonous Dude" would not be an appropriate punishment in your books?

I think the public punishments quoted so far in this thread would be entertaining and so obviously outrageous as to not be offensive: being pilloried, flogged, made to peel potatoes... Would you get upset over that?

Psh. There's humiliation and there's humiliation. There's a wide spectrum of severity encompassed in that term, and your argument is attempting to make it all the same. Tch.

Considering that being pilloried means that you can't, without breaking RP, move for a number of days (say, 2-3 hours)... yeah. I would. While you might find being ordered to peel potatoes to be amusing-- I do not. Nor would I enjoy being forced to sit still while people emote "flaying"-- either myself, or anybody else.

The bearing of a title is about as far in the public humiliation category that I'm really willing to go. An execution, sure. I've done plenty of those. A title, yes. These things that go far beyond either in game-terms? (Note that executions must, by law, occur within the Glomdoring with conglutination. It's quick, perhaps a little messy, a pointed object lesson, and done).

Since we're quite clearly talking about Val here...

When I signed up for Ministry of Culture, part of it was that he wanted me to carry out, and I quote, "public executions." You're talking about public humiliation. Nirrti brought up the only precedent of public humiliation that Glomdoring has ever seen. What are the rest of you ranting about?

The new proposed laws (which you should have access to). : P

You know? Nothing beats IC punishments like the Guild's instakills

Hm. Druken, the character, is going to despise a lot of this. Publicly humiliating anyone isn't what the Glomdoring is about. At least, it wasn't when he first joined it. I don't know what it's morphing into lately.

The player, though, was part of the Stavenn vs. Noctusari plot in Imperian when the game first opened. We tortured, humiliated and destroyed the Noctusari leadership as part of their punishment for leaving the city. The Noctusari, I later learned, were all laughing on GT about what was going on, but it was still neat to have an entire city avidly quaffing the ridiculous move the Noctusari made. I know that Mara and I had a great time doing it, too.

On the flip-flip side... Glomdoring's just too cool to have that dark side implemented. It is the "dark" commune, but the Gods worked hard at making us, the Glomdorians, not see the Glomdoring as a dark place. Adding public humiliation to our roleplay will be great- for one small, small group of people. It just doesn't make sense at this time to add something like that. To me, anyway.

Edit: Ahem. "Quaffing" is actually "quashing." No one was drinking anyone.