You cannot be enemied to the Earth elemental plane. And you could very well be taking from my power on Astral by linking to a node. We could claim a node to be our power, just as much as you could claim the earth as yours.

But then every idiot and his dog would just kill you to make you look stupid.

Isn't that what Ixion is saying about earth?

No, unlike you Magnagora has a guild which is linked to earth. Serenwilde is linked to ethereal. Us telling you to get off earth is like you telling us to get off ethereal.

To come back to the topic, which still is Astral not Earth I think..

How can it be fair if someone hunts for many hours for exp, then someone just jumps him and gains 1? 2? levels in a few seconds? If jumping is only for exp, why do we even bother to bash in the first place? It would be some much faster to just kill random people and guess what you don't even need to have an RP reason for that!

I agree with Silvanus that Celestians have become stupid; however, we aren't like Mags and thus won't jump people in the elemental plane of water. On the topic of Astral Awareness; Most mags I meet on astral are actually quite nice and we get along fine. Melanchthon taught me all the rules and I even teleported to some Mags who allowed me to go to other spheres. I really hope people who do nothing more then kill others don't bring this stuff Astral.\\

edit: Some celestians will attack Mags on the Elemental plane of Water and only half will attack them in the inner sea.

Exactly. Astral is inherently guild and city neutral whereas earth, water, nil, celestia, and ethereal are not. To an extreme.. I dont see anyone making blood pacts with steel goats as nihilists do with the demon lords... As such, there is no RP reason to pk on astral randomly.

No, you telling us to get off earth is like us telling you to get off Astral.

You telling us to get off NIL, on the other hand, is like us telling you to get off Ethereal.

You guys use Earth as a bashing ground, same as Celest does with Water. They're not owned planes in the same way the Ether and Cosms are. The two issues are very different.

But there is if you despise that person, and have been seeking them out, to kill them, but they only seem to go from Magnagora to Astral and back. Also it is a way around the Avenger, should say someone who is suspected to you abuses it, by insulting or harassing you repeatedly.

It would be really nice if we could return to the more or less peaceful state that existed until recently. Even during the last war it was possible without any real problem to hunt on Astral. But now all of a sudden monolith sigils get dropped, some idiot took all sparkleberry from Cancer, people jump people there....please, there are enough aggressions already, do not further them there.

Killing of players is meant to happen off of prime, period. Deal with it. The avenger ignores it for a reason.

It worked very well before, why shouldn't it anymore?

Exactly. Pacts are made on Nil and Celestia, not on Water and Earth. It is possible to be enemied to Nil (and Ethereal), but not to Earth. Celestians in general just happen to have a much less militant view towards non-citymembers hunting on Water than Magnagorans have towards those hunting on Earth.

But that's a personal choice. Just like choosing whether or not to attack people in Astral. Honestly, I find it more contradictory (RP-wise) to expect people to drop all of their ideologies as soon as they step onto Astral.

Respecting people who are hunting in peace is one thing. But if you jump somebody -anywhere- based on your current ideologies, then you can expect to be jumped right back -anywhere- based on, if nothing else, a personal desire for retribution. There is nothing non-RP about that.

I really believe the hunters of Astral should form a clan that will protect the hunters there from any unprovoked attack. Theres enough planes to kill people on. leave Astral out of it

That made me laugh. Thanks, Ixion.



Um...yeah. Get your damn facts right please.

The thing with that, Shiro, is that most of the people that would be killed hang out on Astral. So, uh, what do you mean keep the conflict away from there? The only way that can happen is for them to stay off it. *shrug*

Besides which, a clan to protect each other is very, very stupid. Daevos will not protect Narsrim just because they both bash Astral. And vice versa.

baah

Fair enough Dumihru, fair enough.

Im glad to see all the feedback on this.

Leaving people alone on astral is my personal choice, mostly because it slows my hunting. When I hunt, it's a one track mind for me persay on astral. Getting jumped doesn't especially bother me as I dont lose xp in death, ever. Summarily, I should clarify that I simply miss the old days on astral when few were big enough to venture there and it was a relatively serene place.

Edit: "mostly because it slows my hunting"--"It" refers to stopping to defend myself against jumpers.

Must be nice.