Where will a bear be handled like a rag doll? In the histories, apparently.
Yes, the sea turtles is what I meant.
Furrikin are a SMALL race that resembles animals. Not a race that resembles small animals. Bears -are not small.-
And uh...okay, maybe foxes are different size over in America. 'cause looking it up in an encyclopaedia, they're about the same.
So yes, maybe it will be a small hyena. But a small hyena is as valid as a small bear.

Heh, koala, possum, wombat and bilby could all be possibilities then

I don't actually know what a bilby is, but yes.

Nope, in histories furrikin where treated like rag dolls by tae'daes. Big difference. Also, as far as I know, foxes are the smallest members of their family: dogs, wolves, jackals, coyotes, dingos. They are small, and because of that they can't hunt big prey. Nor do they hunt on packs. Often what an animal eats tells you much about the animal itself. Foxes tend to prey on small animals, if anything. Why? Because their designed only makes capable of dealing with those types of animals. Any other kind of larger canine easily preys of foxes wherever they are, because they are not as strong nor large as the others.

And read histories correctly, Furrikins are a race that resemble SMALL animals. To the point that furrikins are described as diminutive and nimble. It is because they only resemble small animals that they are described that way. A bear is huge, actually. The only stage were you will find bears be small is when they are infants: cubs. A cub is a bearlike animal. Tae'daes are bear-like humanoids. Meaning that they resemble big bears, and it isn't a surprise they would consider furrikins as their "little brothers" because the model of bear-like furrikins were bear cubs

Small race derived from small creatures.

I am reading the histories correctly. In doing so, I am noticing the part where Lolly says he's one of the Furrikin that looks like a miniature tae'dae. What do tae'dae resemble? Bears. Are bears small? No. A cub is not an animal on its own. Otherwise I could just say you're only allowed puppy Furrikin, not dog Furrikin. That sort of thing.

So yes. In the histories, Furrikin were treated like a rag doll by a tae'dae. In response to your question: Where do you see bears being treated like rag dolls? The answer in the same. The histories. Lolly resembled a bear. That's right, a bear. And as you have just said, he was treated like a rag doll. ...that's it.

Small race derived from small creatures and smaller versions of big creatures.

Okay, let us set something straight. Like I said: bears are HUGE, tae'daes resemble BIG bear-like humanoids. Thus they are HUGE. Furrikins resemble small bears, a small bear is when a bear is during it's infacy period meanig it is still a cub. So, proper logic tells you, that furrikins resemble cubs. Now, seeing how a furrikin resembles the bear cub, it can without doubt resemble in some fashion a "petit" tae'dae.

Lolly resembles a bear cub, not a huge bear. That you leave it to the tae'daes. That explains the affinity between tae'dae and bear-like furrikins= big bear+bear cub.

Edit: How silly. There is no real point in this discussion

You're making the assumption that just because a bear is small it is actually a cub. It might just be a small version of a bear. There's no real reason to believe it isn't, in this case (and yes, I am arguing from the point of view that these bears are humanoid etc., so linking them DIRECTLY to the animal's lifecycle like that is a bad thing, probably.) Lolly resembles a small bear, not a cub.

Other creatures furrikin can resemble:
-wallaby -bats-rats -cats -otters

You know, as I see it. I think Bollokin took as models every small animal he could get, without exeption of whether the animal could grow to a larger size. The race took form, with a blend of humanoid. So, their growth cycle and anatonomy should be very different from the animals, but their general animal traits would still be those resembling the animals from which they were designed to be like.

I guess you could say that a furrikin resembling bear cub, when old age could resemble a bear.... (bear cubs don't only resemble bears, they are bears). In any case, I'll concede to you. Furrikins, that resemble small bears, may in the end grow to resemble even more somber traits closer to big bears, with always mantaining their small size and feeble physical condition.

I think different types of Furrikin should have racial abilities. Just a nice touch.

Well, maybe if there was an option or something, but it'd be a bit complex. The problem with that is that Furrikin are so open to choice, restricting them to several (you know, claws for cats, sharp ears for foxes, whatever) would kinda defeat their purpose a little. It's not as though we're presented with a choice of what kinda Furrikin we want to be, or I'd like your idea.

Maybe it would've been good if the scope of small creatures, that the Furrikin can resemble, were more narrow. Like, they resemble rodents, small felines, small cats, and bear cubs (the furrikin+tae'dae relation sounds great). Or at the very least stuck with small walking mammals, they all have claws, fangs, or fur.

Maybe it is just us that make things too complicated, and go searching for small animals furrikins could resemble. Though, has anyone seen a turtle-like furrikin out there?

Tomtom Hardshell, in Estelbar. Least, I think he's called Tomtom

Only in the village. I've seen...mm...cats, porcupines, rats, bears, foxes, some sort of weasel/ferret/polecat/marten/something related I couldn't tell, and a hare. If you can find different abilities for each of those and more without spoiling the lovely diversity of the race, I'll salute ya.

Shiri just wants to add more to his post count cause everyone is catching up *nod me*

That would be cool different abilities for different types of furrikin

Too hard to implement though. And I don't post JUST to up my post count, believe it or not. I just can't read or anything right now since the fuses in the lights blew, computer's all I have. (See, for once I have an excuse.)

Yah, that one orclach vote is me, you find two or 3 other people tops to add their vote to that catagory, then you'll prob get the whole population of us, yah we need help .. alot, the neg's outweight the positives , ,and the few positives in most cases arent as good as the race next to it (want big and tanky, go tae'dae *heh*) the regen is nice, but overall its not all that fast even when combined with athletics regen and boosting, (actually it generally jus saves me a few health sips when bashing, though the neg 2 exp makes bashing slower, so it balances out there)
The -huge- drawback is the low int, int is -mandatory- in lust, any fight yer in , yer gonna wind up paralyzed a couple times, theres 250 mana per one right there.

I think im gonna go and "repost" a orclach need help post (this time avoiding the other races problems in the title and first post) though there really is only a half dozen or so people that have prob spent the time as an orclach, so might wind up with a mediocre response *Smirk*

Graal battlesmith

Level 3 susceptibility to fire + 14 consitution + Aquamancer staff = Fresh roast Orclach

Race changes... another example came to mind. I think Grook in Achaea got tweaked as to no longer allowing them to regen the same when standing in artificial water. I could be wrong, though. Still, I am positive race changes are things that do happen... maybe it just takes time.

Fresh roast Orclach? Not sure if I would eat them... they don't seem tender enough.













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Who doesn't want to be an Elfen? Seriously? There are a great many Elfen and I like the racial stats for the Seren archetypes. Warrior/Druid/Guardian...Elfen is a pretty sound race to go for if you're green. I get up to 18 STR as an Elfen. I can't complain about that.

The rest of us can. *grumbles about 12 int and 10 str *