...ah, roighto. Best not to explain, then. And the heck if Singapore has the best language! *peer and her "speling"*

No no, Australia has the most accurate form of English. Just go watch Steve Irwin for a while! *gag*

No, I read this topic to see the degredation of society first hand.

Oh, right, and your insults and lack of consideration for others is a prime example of how we should all behave, Rhysus?

Nope. My not going overboard on the PC bandwagon is a prime example of how we should all behave. You're propagating a Big Brother culture that's just going to get more and more absurd as time passes. I'd rather actively show compassion for people than bother worrying about a random word offending someone for 5 seconds because they interpreted it entirely out of context and gave it a meaning different than how it was intended. Far be it from me to dictate whether you want to act anal about every little thing you take issue with, but if I disagree with your flawed logic, I will let you know that you are wrong.

And if I disagree with yours, I do the same thing.

My issue was not that I took personal offence, really. I just wanted to check that the admins knew what the word meant, in certain contexts, and they didn't.

Like I've said, if I roleplayed throwing a fag into a blazing fire most of the people would complain about homophobia and I could stand there scratching my head wondering what is so homophobic about burning a bundle of sticks. It's the same thing with a different word and meaning, but you get the point (I assume).

Words do carry inherent meaning and in this global age we have to take into consideration that local meaning may be very different from the definition in another land.

Well, properly, bugger does have a meaning over here, just not an offensive one or even a verb. It's more of a harmless colloquialism, like, "look at that little bugger, ain't he cute?". Quite, quite different. We Americans have only really crude and simplistic equivalents; I don't know if it's good or bad that we seem to be very bad at making vulgarities (we make lots of them, but they're very poor quality with no grace to them).

And while I'm being pedantic, I think it's more commonly spelled "bollocks". That word has no real meaning in the States apart from when Anglophiles use it in the British sense, which I must admit I often do, it's my current most-commonly-used substitute for "dammit". Of course, being so far from Bonnie Old England, I think when I say it its meaning is quite diluted. (Besides, I am so bad at accents I can't even do a Long Island accent and I was born and raised there, so don't ask me to do London, let alone Liverpool.)

Unlike almost everyone else, I'd have to agree with Rhysus on this one. It's one thing to care about actively insulting others, and another thing to see a word and know an alternate meaning that is offensesive, and thus be insulted for that meaning despite it not being the intended one.



By your logic here, I could start up a new alteration of English, and get people to follow along with it. And in this alteration of it, almost anything you could think up that wouldn't be insulting to you ever, actually does have an insulting meaning for us.

Therefore, you must change every single word that is used by us in an insulting way, so that none of us are insulted by it. Despite the fact that the words in no way at all are ment to be insulting, you have to change them becasue they might insult us, because we have them meaning something different that what they are normally defined as meaning.

Spastic IS normally defined as an insulting word in Australia, can't you understand that? It's not a word that could be taken two ways, like bugger. It is a word, in Australia, that, when used, is used as an insult 95% of the time.

Would you mind if the admins used words like nigger in the game?

No, I wouldn't, actually.

Hush, you .

Meh I'm over this argument. It was the decision of the admins, ultimatly, so take it up with them if you think the game is too PC.

I wouldn't have much of a problem if it was used, so long as it was used in it's original intent, and actual meaning. The problem there, is that the word was created solely as a derrogatory word, only meant to classify a certain group of indiviuals as lesser.

Spastic is not originated for that. That is my point. Spastic means to be with convustions, or spams. Those can be of varying sorts. That is probably why the desease took on the term spastic, because it had to do with spasms.

But you prove my point even more. So becasue Australia uses it one way (that isn't what it originally means), and that way happens to be as an insult, it obviously must be taken out, for Australians may be insulted by it. That's the same logic used to reach my example of making new menaings for words, and thus making you unable to use them because I might take it to be the insult I know it to be, instead of what you actualy meant when you used it.

I've had some Americans look at me very very strangely when I've used bugger since they assume I'm referring to anal sex (the original definition of the word), so I guess it has meaning it some of the US.

Linguists actually believe that Midwesterners (Midwestern America, that is) and some Canadians have the technically purest accents in English. Theoretically speaking.

Also, I'd like to register a complaint. You see, Magnagora has attacked Serenwilde in the recent past, and that affected my Serenwilde charecters adversely. I've hired lawyers and am prepared to sue for harassment.

Again, I'm not Australian, and it was me who started this, so it isn't just them.

And secondly, I see Rhysus' point. However, I feel -he- is being an anal little prick about it. As well as arrogant and disrepectful.

And I stand by my argument. I took it the wrong way perhaps, so do others. It is a word that has been hijacked as a term for the disabled, and is how it is widely seen. It isn't a word that should be associated with this kind of society.

And Rhysus, you talk about the downfall of society? It's arrogant little arses like you that bring society down.

Wow, just wow.

Rhysus, I feel for you man. A lone island of good sense amidst a sea of whiny, sniveling PC-brats. Or do they prefer complaint-surplused pitch-hightened fictional-injustice-correctors?

Or maybe some of us were actually offended? There is a reason I can't walk around in game making racist and homophobic comments. Its not just because people enjoy being PC, its because IRE do NOT want to get their ass sued. And this is just exactly the same.

If you were offended, it's your own fault, not the game's. The word was used as it was intended to be used. Losing a debate makes you twitch in a spastic manner. Dritex summed it up pretty well. If I start taking offense to the word taint because it offends Canadians, I don't expect it to be taken out of the game.

So its ok for me to run around calling everyone a raging fag, because its not an insult in Mozambique?

If the person is a rampaging pile of wood, or a british cigarette, then yes. Use the words as they're intended to be used, not as slurs. Which this was. The point just sailed over you there, didn't it?