Richter2005-01-28 08:25:54
Yet.
Aebrin2005-01-28 11:02:14
Just polygamy? It just means many wives. There's another word for many hubbies.
Besides if you have more than one wife, I want the option of marrying those steel goats on astral. Not for me of course, just thinking for other people.
Besides if you have more than one wife, I want the option of marrying those steel goats on astral. Not for me of course, just thinking for other people.
Aebrin2005-01-28 11:05:51
Curse the double poster *muahahahaha*
Actually in Achaea, my char's got was born of his dad and his mother/great great great grandmother. I always felt pride about me screwing up our family. Everybody just go "Yep that's him".
So his dad was also his great great grandson or something.
Actually in Achaea, my char's got was born of his dad and his mother/great great great grandmother. I always felt pride about me screwing up our family. Everybody just go "Yep that's him".
So his dad was also his great great grandson or something.
eirene2005-01-28 16:35:55
Awww! It was like 6 to 0 in favor for a while there. I personally think it would be no less abused than single-person marriage is right now, and given the fact that some orgs would outlaw it, why automatically prevent it from a mechanics POV? Just seems like it limits RP, i guess
Typhus2005-01-28 17:28:17
Perhaps a limit on how many wives, or triple the cost of each additional marriage, or even have it were if there is a divorce, they can't use polygamy again.
Gwylifar2005-01-28 22:13:25
Fact time. Polyamory is not one-man-multiple-women. It's a bastardized term (half Latin, half Greek, somehow appropriate) but it translates as "many loves", not "many wives". The words you're looking for there are polygyny and polyandry.
There are plenty of historical precedents for multiple husbands with one wife, or for other combinations. Perhaps one of the best known is in Tibet, where a polyamorous union could have multiple husbands and wives at the same time. The Pawnee tribe of North America also practiced a purer polyandry, as have some tribes in South America and in other places. Polygyny is notably more common historically, but by no means exclusive of polyandry and mixed unions.
Certainly allowing polygamy would be used an excuse for kinky three-way MUDsex. Not allowing polygamy will also be used as an excuse for kinky three-way MUDsex. It would be hard to find anything anywhere in any MUD that someone won't use as an excuse for MUDsex. But we still allow roleplaying, so that argument is a non-starter.
There are plenty of historical precedents for multiple husbands with one wife, or for other combinations. Perhaps one of the best known is in Tibet, where a polyamorous union could have multiple husbands and wives at the same time. The Pawnee tribe of North America also practiced a purer polyandry, as have some tribes in South America and in other places. Polygyny is notably more common historically, but by no means exclusive of polyandry and mixed unions.
Certainly allowing polygamy would be used an excuse for kinky three-way MUDsex. Not allowing polygamy will also be used as an excuse for kinky three-way MUDsex. It would be hard to find anything anywhere in any MUD that someone won't use as an excuse for MUDsex. But we still allow roleplaying, so that argument is a non-starter.
Aebrin2005-01-28 23:54:32
Ack what a quick way to get a great house.
Shiri2005-01-29 00:04:48
I think some way of actually getting a Great House, whether via this or (preferably) multiple bloodbonds, would really make them interesting. Because 50 people is really, really, really not viable with Lusternia's playerbase. Or if it is, there will be like ONE in the whole basin. Meh. They should be rare, but not THAT rare.
Unknown2005-01-29 00:07:56
QUOTE(Shiri @ Jan 29 2005, 11:04 AM)
I think some way of actually getting a Great House, whether via this or (preferably) multiple bloodbonds, would really make them interesting. Because 50 people is really, really, really not viable with Lusternia's playerbase. Or if it is, there will be like ONE in the whole basin. Meh. They should be rare, but not THAT rare.
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Agreed
Aebrin2005-01-29 15:44:32
I think greathouses will grow as more people come and play.
However one of the reason I left Achaea was because of the overcrowdedness. Imperian was much better in that sense.
However one of the reason I left Achaea was because of the overcrowdedness. Imperian was much better in that sense.
mel2005-01-29 19:07:42
If they could allow multiple siblings in a bloodbond without the multiple marriages thing it would make a lot more sense .. and then limit it to say 10 siblings to be realistic then it should work fine without any 'instant greathouses' and if they are that worried about them.. well whats stopping a couple right now grabbing loads of kids barely out of the portal and bringing them into the family? (after the consideration periods of course)
Faethan2005-01-29 19:30:25
I think no, because there'd be that one idiot who thought it'd make them cool to marry as many people as they can. I wouldn't have as much of a problem if one had to pay, say, 25 or 50 credits for an additional marriage liscence. That would keep things reasonable and would prevent people from abusing it. It could even work like 25 credits for the first, 35 for the second, 45 for the third and so on.
mel2005-01-30 03:43:40
hmm, I like this buying additional licenses for credits idea as it would solve the problem of idiots marrying every person in sight ... however instead of the cost increasing in a linear fashion.. make it double for each addiitonal one so 25cr for the first, 50cr for the second, 100cr for the 3rd etc... that would make people be more careful about who they are marrying for divorcing say a 5th wife would be rather costly and you would want to make sure your making the right choice, especially if the 'license' is made a once off item.
eirene2005-01-31 16:21:53
I may be mistaken, but I think right now there is no cost for marriage, but a cost to create a family of 25000 gp. I don't think it would be realistic to have a marriage cost for each additional one. It would just limit RP instead of expanding it, as the polygamy option was intended to. The way I see it, people would be able to marry however many others they wanted. As for the abuse thing, abuse of RP is possible in every single action a character takes in Lusternia. The whole idea is that people play because they want to have good RP and always being so concerned about possible abuses is I think a bit of an underestimation of the players. The proper waiting periods would still apply, and I think that that is enough to prevent frivolous stuff from happening
ohtaren2005-01-31 20:57:03
Eirene is right (and I'm not just saying this because I'm her husband) You can have bad RP at any point in the game. all you have to do is say on CT what you thought of desperate housewives last night. But guess what happens when someone says something like that? they are instantly rebuked, and if they keep it up they find themselves with no friends, no guild and no city. Those people leave the game pretty quick. It would be the same for polygamy, if you abuse it you find yourself with no friends.
Faethan2005-02-01 01:15:12
QUOTE(ohtaren @ Jan 31 2005, 04:57 PM)
Eirene is right (and I'm not just saying this because I'm her husband) You can have bad RP at any point in the game. all you have to do is say on CT what you thought of desperate housewives last night. But guess what happens when someone says something like that? they are instantly rebuked, and if they keep it up they find themselves with no friends, no guild and no city. Those people leave the game pretty quick. It would be the same for polygamy, if you abuse it you find yourself with no friends.
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No, based on what I've seen in Achaea, people who abuse the bloodline system to have more children than they are years old are not looked down upon at all. Social factors are not enough to limit abuse of this sort of thing. There needs to be a material cost to limit as well.
Shiri2005-02-01 01:29:01
The consideration period should be enough for that.
Daganev2005-02-01 01:31:12
having been one of those people who had a ridiculous amount of kids, the only thing that would limit my kids or family growth would be if it cost money (not time) to add children. I would assume it is the same thing for marriages.
Unfortuneatly, in general, time restrictions only hurt the people who do not plan to abuse a system, and are silly hurdles to jump if you do plan on abusing the system.
Time based on actually being online, is different.
Unfortuneatly, in general, time restrictions only hurt the people who do not plan to abuse a system, and are silly hurdles to jump if you do plan on abusing the system.
Time based on actually being online, is different.
Unknown2005-02-01 03:09:06
QUOTE(Aebrin @ Jan 28 2005, 10:02 PM)
Just polygamy? It just means many wives. There's another word for many hubbies.
I thought polygyny was the word for many wives and polygamy was the word for many spouses...
Faethan2005-02-01 03:46:18
QUOTE(Quidgyboo @ Jan 31 2005, 11:09 PM)
I thought polygyny was the word for many wives and polygamy was the word for many spouses...
39990
Yep