Necromancy was around long before Nil was. Notice it says, the dark chants of Necromancy, not that Necromancy originated from Nil. But the necromancy skills were only before-hand used by Urlach (a Vernal God), but can now be used by anyone, due to Nil.

Yes, but modern Lusternia Necromancy only deals with the Taint, which in turn from what HELP NECROMANCY says it is from Nil. Lisaera noted something along the lines, if I remember correctly, that those that followed Urlach sided with necromancers of the Taint to become the undead. The necromancy now deals with Nil, so saying that it does not is wrong. And currently, there is no one in Lusternia to my knowledge that practices necromancy without the involvement of the Taint or takes that power from Nil. And if I am wrong on any of this, please someone correct me.

Its 100% possible to be an undead paladin if you are carefully about dying.

Yes, I expect Magnagora to make decisions and the people to go with them. We question some of them, but in the end we snap in line. That is Magnagora.

You are the Free Commune of the Serenwilde or whatever you are called now, and if I recall the referendum from way back where Nikua asked do you want laws...a large group of people voted they didn't want laws. Arguments insued where people argued that laws are for cities, and the commune is a free society and people should be able to follow their own path. Inevitably I assume the people who wanted laws won, but the fact remains you have many individuals who live there based on their freedoms. I would have no respect if you ran your Gov't like Magnagora or even tried to associate the way the commune is run with the way we are.

Leadership can keep their citizens in the dark IC, but my point was that nobody knew what was going on in the FORUMS either. Not until Merloch posted and the other admins about the "event" did anyone have much of a clue about the situation. Look back on the flow of the posts if you don't believe me....first it was the trees groaned, then it was the Spirits objected, then it was Merloch had visions. If you are going to do personal/group RP in this fashion, have a plan that everyone at least comprehends what is going on. Your point about the Leadership is good and dandy, but half the leadership when asked had no clue other than..."The forest was upset"...having no idea what it was upset NOW as opposed to THEN.

Whilst I realise you're joking, just to quell any rumours that start: any god that was found to be using a mortal character for anything other than bug testing would probably not be a god for much longer. It's just too abuseable.

That kinda sucks. Gods should be allowed to have mortal chars. Being so standoffish all the time and not be able to mingle in the crowd without someone *respectful snuggle* you... I reckon if the God can RP both chars well, making it seems there is no relations between them, I say go for it. Gods need to obey the seconds law as well.

No Aebrin. It is IRE policy, that once you become a God, you must permanently give up all your mortal characters. However, with four IRE realms, if they so choose, they can play a Mortal character on another realm.

Gwynn thinks that the ideals of "Freedom" and such are actually city-taint that has come back to Serenwilde since they reopened. I didn't get the impression that Freedom was something that Serenwilde cared much for from reading about the histories, I read them, and thought "Finally, a non-snuggly, brutal forestal type". Thats how I play my Forestal at least (I remember when Jalain told "Your ideals are disgusting on a very fundamental level", it made me proud)

I have to agree with Gwynn... and that -does- to be a difference about the Serenguard, we promote brutalism quite often... I also have to admit without the happy go lucky bunny huggers in the Serenguard, we would all probably have killed eachother long before now.

If only we can have some Serenguard whip it out of a couple people in the Moondancers...

They like that in Achaea in the early days. It ended up being heavily abused. Imagine fighting a mortal whose divine second is refreshing his health in mid-combat. Or making his mortal second order-head to gain political clout over a guild and city he patrons and then using both the mortal and god together to strongarm the organization's politics. Yes, those things happened in Achaea and is what caused the policy to go into place.

Oh come on Roark! Get off it (j/k!)....

....the Gods abused themselves without having seconds back in the day in Achaea! I still remember being personally chased around by Demeter and having 3 other gods show up to basically ask her "WTF are you doing?"

I'm glad the divine here keep their roles seperate, and love the professionalism many of them give by staying so secluded. When you see divine 24/7, they begin to lose that aura of mystery that surrounds them. If I hear Fain talking in Mag, I know something is going down.....or we screwed up immensely!

Back on topic, I'm glad to see that the lich law was repealed.

Kudos!

And so ends another thread...

Maybe it shouldn't have been put there in the first place, maybe it should. But the reasoning they used to get rid of it, as Elryn so perceptively pointed out in a Serenwilde post, was extremely dodgy.

Mind you, all RP, so it's all good.

Gods can't even have mortal avatars or hugely cool prophet players to play with?

i want John Galt to come to Magnagora and say, I'm taking all the productive people to a far away place in the mountains, and dammnit i'm stopping this engine!