Demesnes;

by Ceres

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Unknown2005-01-29 22:39:29
Irrelevant, as he edited his original post.
Estarra2005-01-29 22:40:12
Roark just assured me that it is "impossible" to create a demesne that is "impossible" to break.
ravin2005-01-29 22:40:20
if you want to conrol the villages that badly, then yes, it is neccesary.

Its like if you guys decided to sit at every gate in magnagora, or as a celest/serenwilde block access to spectre isle. If you were dedicated enough then we would need to fight back at you long and hard especially if you never gave up.

Estarra the answer to your question is yes! They did notice it, I even told everyone who i talked to that it wa a 400 roomer. I even demesne travelled to people just to have them know that they were being watched as long as they walked upon tainted soil, or even sometimes to make them beg for right of passage. They just didn't do enough about it. I should've been hunted every time i stept out of the gates, yet i spent a lot of time bashing in spectre and chilling around, its not that hard to kill me in my demsne. I HAVE 2.2K HEALTH its not that hard to kill me.
Amaru2005-01-29 22:41:39
Ummm no Ravin. There are MANY ways your example could be got around. There is no example of something so invulnerable and restricting, besides the demesne over half the world example.
ravin2005-01-29 22:45:04
Well then amaru, why don't you change classess and become an aquamaner and show us how it is done and take over -your- little area of flooded lands. Go demesne villages and whatnot, and show us how it is done. Or get the aquamancers to do it, well see a new taint-flood-forest wars.

The demesne wasnt impossible to break just idfficult especially when I wasnt in the game.

Edit: Did i meantion its really really easy to kill me? Ceres has killed my right after being summoned into a statue with nothing more than staff (damn mugwumpi sucept to fire)
Unknown2005-01-29 22:46:12
If the demesne is a triangle, with two corners in statued/guarded villages, and the other end in Magnagora, it is just about impossible to break.
ravin2005-01-29 22:49:38
just for reference, my demesne only went into dairuchi i dunno where you have gotten the idea i had 2 statued/guarded villages demesned. the demesne goes from the lich gate around to ankkrag then around to southgard, through glomfdoring and through gloriana river to bondero bay, then back along highway to magnagora south gate to megalith. from southgard and bondero bay it goes along southern highway and meets in the middle there at the great pass. it then goes into dairuchi.

Its not impossible to break
Estarra2005-01-29 22:50:44
QUOTE(ravin @ Jan 29 2005, 03:49 PM)
just for reference, my demesne only went into dairuchi i dunno where you have gotten the idea i had 2 statued/guarded villages demesned. the demesne goes from the lich gate around to ankkrag then around to southgard, through glomfdoring and through gloriana river to bondero bay, then back along highway to magnagora south gate to megalith. from southgard and bondero bay it goes along southern highway and meets in the middle there at the great pass. it then goes into dairuchi.

Its not impossible to break
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It actually sounds very easy to break.
Silvanus2005-01-29 22:52:26
I want any Guardian who thinks Geomancers are overpowered, to go Geomancer and find out the frustrations there are.
Unknown2005-01-29 22:52:55
QUOTE(Silvanus @ Jan 29 2005, 06:37 PM)
Uhh, let me explain this. Lets say there is a room like this (apologize if it doesn't appear pretty):

X--X--X
ooo|ooo
oooXooo

Every single room there can be broken (unless that was a bug and was fixed). X's being the room.
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Yes, I know.

But, according to the AB files, something like this:

user posted image

Is unbreakable if all of the rooms are melded. Furthermore, according to the AB files such a ring remains unbreakable even if there are other exits leading elsewhere.

What am I missing?
ravin2005-01-29 22:53:03
Damn right. you can break it at grand junction (even though 2 rooms either side are melded it still break for some reason) and at southgard (same thing)

it just takes a small army to do it while im there, and chances are ill just go along and remeld it while no-one is looking. I want a gem of cloaking

EDIT: Istinuse, I had a similair thing in southgard on imdar circlet and in dairuchi, yet southagrd got unmelded and dairuchi they managed to get 2 or 3 rooms on that circle unmelded, so maybe there is something else.
Unknown2005-01-29 22:58:19
Let's say it takes one minute to clear out one room of demesne. That equals 400 minutes. 400/60 is six and a half hours or so. That would be assuming you didn't stop to go refill on power, since forceflooding takes one power. It's also assuming that you don't run out of mana vials, or get jumped and have to pray, and that the demesne user doesn't show up and summon/kill you.
Silvanus2005-01-29 22:59:58
QUOTE(Etanru @ Jan 29 2005, 04:58 PM)
Let's say it takes one minute to clear out one room of demesne. That equals 400 minutes. 400/60 is six and a half hours or so. That would be assuming you didn't stop to go refill on power, since forceflooding takes one power. It's also assuming that you don't run out of mana vials, or get jumped and have to pray, and that the demesne user doesn't show up and summon/kill you.
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... I just cleared out 10 rooms in less then 40 seconds.
Unknown2005-01-29 23:00:22
QUOTE(ravin @ Jan 29 2005, 06:53 PM)

EDIT: Istinuse, I had a similair thing in southgard on imdar circlet and in dairuchi, yet southagrd got unmelded and dairuchi they managed to get 2 or 3 rooms on that circle unmelded, so maybe there is something else.
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Where's the damn bug then?

-Something- here is seriously wrong. Considering how it's a major issue, perhaps a Divine could chip in (or better yet fix the AB file or ability, whichever is broken)?
Unknown2005-01-29 23:01:23
Did you force...taint them? Or just taint them normally?
Silvanus2005-01-29 23:02:24
QUOTE(Etanru @ Jan 29 2005, 05:01 PM)
Did you force...taint them? Or just taint them normally?
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forcetaint.
ravin2005-01-29 23:03:16
a minute?! you must have a slow connection! it takes me a MAXIMUM of 10 seconds if i have to dispell illusionry terrain, but usually a lot less. So we're talking about 1.5 maybe 2 hours for one person doing in.

Get 4 of yourbuddies in and it takes 30 mins, 40 maximum if you're disorganised. Athana had it right when she and gelo were unmelding me outside southgard. Its really not that hard. 40 mins to take away RL days of making defending remeleding and cost of runes.

EDIT: If your working at silvanus' rate, 10 rooms for 40 seconds, thats 1600 seconds. obviously your gonna run into problems along the way but its not that hard at all. thats 27 mins, add 13 mins in for complications at thats 400 rooms GONE by ONE PERSON in 40 mins, damn better make unmelding a lot harder its overpowered! (that part was sarcastic humour)
Amaru2005-01-29 23:08:48
I looked away and when I come back the thread has turned into a load of irrelevant crap. Sorry readers.
Silvanus2005-01-29 23:10:05
QUOTE(Amaru @ Jan 29 2005, 05:08 PM)
I looked away and when I come back the thread has turned into a load of irrelevant crap. Sorry readers.
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I guess Estarra and Roark's post are loads of crap. Good to know!
Amaru2005-01-29 23:20:00
Nice try, I meant Ravin. Couldn't he just run his posts through a word processor first?