Sure, you can force an aggressive action, but you know, what a waste of effort? Might as well attack them.

Oh, I forgot to add, that rebounding doesn't go down unless you actually strike them with the offensive action. So if you are off equilibrium/balance (which you should be if you are properly chasing it) when I force you to do whatever hostile action, it won't fade, and I'll end up rebounding and smacking myself in the face for a stun.

Not to mention, they cannot be restricted in anyway, or else the hostile action you forced won't go through (like kick for example). When it comes to forcing people to do things, forcing anything that requires they have balance and/or equilibrium is NOT a viable tactic. You have to force things they can do at any time, such as sit, writhe, focus spirit, focus body, etc.

So once again, your statements are based around stupidity. I had read your statement about using a pooka earlier, but ignored it, knowing it was not a viable tactic.

The target is most likely to have balance since they won't be able to do anything due to the stun, and since the stun doesn't last until the next bash (though it's close enough that people often can't do anything) a forced command would go through to break the aura.

Read every log of this being done, the person always has balance.

Even if you can't strip rebounding, incapacitating someone completely for as long as their aura is down would still be ridiculous. They'd be able to attack you once every six seconds.

Tuek, it being stopped by rebounding will NOT help in any way to prevent the stunlock, you can just either prevent them to smoke faeleaf alltogether, or waiting a bit between stuns till they try to attack you, then stun again, rebounding will never, ever come up. Does someone have to whore it on you before you understand? Even if you cut the stun length by 50%, it'll still be bloody damn powerful.

Ummm... who do you think I got the idea from? Why Daevos whoring it on me of course. But it didn't bother me to much either.

Daevos doesn't have 20 entities or a demesne to screw you up while you're stunned.

Ok then. Amaru whoring in on me of course!

I posted more evidence...read it, if you're still not convinced after that, you haven't got a clue what you're talking about.

Thorgal, by the looks of the log you just sat there spamming barbed tail, which makes it understandable why he beat you so easily. Learn new tactics to screw him up faster than a random affliction 1/3rd of the time every 2 seconds.

Har har, I ripped you to shreds with just barbed tail, which is a nice indicator of your amazing curing, Ethelon.

In any case, if you can post a log where you defeat your opponent when he whores shieldstun, I'll take your words into consideration.

Thorgal, you RAN away, what, 3 or 4 times aswell that fight BEFORE you became a scrub and started whoring tail, and also, you were the first person I had fought with barbed tail and I had used an old setting from another realm to diag after each one, so I was curing it as you hit and not able to attack back. My mistake, sorry, I will make sure to rip you apart as I have done everytime we have fought. Keep up the scrub tactics... it won't bother me anymore.

Dude, we never even fought before that one. Even Elaria has more of a warrior's attitude than you, who by the way had to come help you team me, after you truehealed and kept up the prismatic barrier...

Ethelon, I don't think Thorgal's fighting ability is what's in question here, it is rather does shieldstun make non-knights classes too powerful. As he has shown in his spars against Ceres and one of the two against Tuek, all they did was shieldstun the majority of the fight. Tuek at least lashed his mana and went for toadcurse, all Ceres did was shieldstun the entire fight after phantom. This takes absolutely no skills to pull off, should Lusternia's fighting be reduced to whomever has the faster connection to spam shieldstun in faster? I've seen on Aetolia and Achaea where Sentinels basically screwed everyone with high speed axes, it's possible to escape, but that sort of near-permanent stun should not be happening in Lusternia too.

Girls, girls, you're both pretty. Now play nicely.

I'm actually suprised that this works so well for Tuek, seeing as how his ents don't afflict as quickly as a guardian's would. Shieldstun hitting rebounding (it is a handheld weapon, after all) and parries would be a nice start. Maybe also not have the stun timer reset each time it hits, like writhing out of webs isn't reset if you hit them again before they recover. Since recovering stun isn't really visible until they move, this should prevent stacking stuns like that at all.

Xavius...none of that made any sense, or even had anything to do with the problem.

Sorry, they are right, I went of subject cause I'm an ass. I tried shield stun a couple weeks ago with some knights in the realm and didn't find it impressive (me hitting them with angels attacking) it slwoed them and allowed me to heal up, but didn't do enough to lock them down. I've yet to fight Tuek or Ceres with the shield stun so it's something I will have to test now. Sorry about the comments Thorgal, I'm just grumpy sometimes.

EDIT:I'm pretty though!! WOOT!

What are you talking about faes not afflicting as fast? They basically all hit on a regular interval, the crone afflicts at the same rate as an angel with masked afflictions, but Tuek's faes also have the advantage of stripping insomnia and doing health/mana damage. And you cannot stack stun anyway, just there is only a very minor window of un-stunned in between shieldstuns for an Aslaran. Sorry to say, but do you know what you're talking about?

Apology gladly accepted. And you're right, it's not very impressive when a knight does it, or even a nihilist or celestine, but for mages and wicca's, it's a huge problem, since they deliver a large range of passive damage and afflictions.

Nono, he said he tried it *on* some knights.

I know...I'm just saying it isn't impressive when a knight does it, or a nihilist, or a celestine (Ethelon), since unlike a demesne or a horde of entities, an angel or a demon won't kill anyone.

Phantom killed you, not the demesne