Murphy2005-02-05 11:13:51
I want a mass vial. Its totally unfair and biased that a moondancer can seize me or wisp me out of a forest spot, into the trees and i have no decent defence against it. Make mulkuth resist it more or SOMETHING because it is totally one-sided. Its not always possible to avoid fighting in a forest.
Unknown2005-02-05 11:18:05
Shield. Monolith. Malkuth. Hexagram. Geyser enchantment. Levitation enchantment (so you don't fall if you are seized).
Those are your defenses, learn to not just stand around without a shield up.
Those are your defenses, learn to not just stand around without a shield up.
Murphy2005-02-05 11:52:24
That is not a fair statement tuek and you know it!
No other class anywhere gets that skill. Malkuth SHOULD resist it more.
How can a mugwump with 12 str lift a massive beast like murphy, wearing fullplate, it just isn't fair. it can pull you right out of the fight.
I want a mass vial. And i also don't want comments from obviously biased people like tuek (I have never heard tuek admit a class needs upgrading, or any of his skills are really really strong, all we hear is a one sided arguement from him)
No other class anywhere gets that skill. Malkuth SHOULD resist it more.
How can a mugwump with 12 str lift a massive beast like murphy, wearing fullplate, it just isn't fair. it can pull you right out of the fight.
I want a mass vial. And i also don't want comments from obviously biased people like tuek (I have never heard tuek admit a class needs upgrading, or any of his skills are really really strong, all we hear is a one sided arguement from him)
Shiri2005-02-05 12:10:54
Uh...so you want defences...just not THOSE defences, some of which actually do to him what he was trying to do to you? How's Tuek being biased by POINTING OUT WHAT YOU CAN ACTUALLY DO? Quite apart from the "no other class gets that skill" demesne summon is a lot, lot worse. Oh and Hartstone and Serenguard get it too. 
Come on, why are you even trying to talk about bias?
Come on, why are you even trying to talk about bias?Unknown2005-02-05 12:25:58
I say things that need to be upgraded all the time. I said Nihilist wrack needs to work on those paralyzed for a recent example.
Oh, and Murphy, if I seize you.. CLIMB DOWN.
Here's my response when you do so:
OMGZ IT'S TO POWERFUL THAT YOU CAN CLIMB DOWN!!!11 I WANT SOME ANTI-DEFENSE-DEFENSE, THAT MAKES SO YOU CANT CLIMB DOWN!! I mean, it doesn't even take balance or equilibrium.. but seizing him does! That's so unfair.
Oh, and Murphy, if I seize you.. CLIMB DOWN.
Here's my response when you do so:
OMGZ IT'S TO POWERFUL THAT YOU CAN CLIMB DOWN!!!11 I WANT SOME ANTI-DEFENSE-DEFENSE, THAT MAKES SO YOU CANT CLIMB DOWN!! I mean, it doesn't even take balance or equilibrium.. but seizing him does! That's so unfair.
Murphy2005-02-05 13:11:57
when you draw the paralyse hex in the trees before hoisting them up, then they can't climbc down straight away.
Shiri2005-02-05 13:16:01
I suppose you'll hate the paralyse rune on statues, then, because again it's a lot worse. (Especially if you get demesne'd into them.) And all the other stuff still applies, you know.
Unknown2005-02-05 13:44:30
Does strength or size (weight?) even factor into seize/shove? If not, it might be a good idea to add that. Just as a larger size person cannot be summoned or tackled so easily, it makes perfect sense they cannot be seized so easily.
Unknown2005-02-05 13:45:08
CODE
You have recovered equilibrium.
1980h, 3240m, 3420e, 10p exkdb-unally ceres
enemy ceres
Commodore Ceres, of the Waters is not currently an ally.
1980h, 3240m, 3420e, 10p exkdb-
Ceres is already an enemy.
1980h, 3240m, 3420e, 10p exkdb-draw hex paralyse
You trace glyphs in the air, and they begin to glow ominously.
1980h, 3060m, 3420e, 10p xkdb-
You have recovered equilibrium.
1980h, 3060m, 3420e, 10p exkdb-draw hex paralyse
You trace glyphs in the air, and they begin to glow ominously.
1980h, 2880m, 3420e, 10p xkdb-
You have recovered equilibrium.
1980h, 2880m, 3420e, 10p exkdb-hexes
Your paralyse hex will last for another 713 seconds.
Your paralyse hex will last for another 715 seconds.
1980h, 2955m, 3420e, 10p exkdb-seize ceres
Your arms lock themselves about Ceres and you hoist her, legs kicking wildly,
up into the treetops.
1980h, 3225m, 3420e, 10p ekdb-
You have recovered balance on all limbs.
1980h, 3225m, 3420e, 10p exkdb-hexes
Your paralyse hex will last for another 705 seconds.
Your paralyse hex will last for another 707 seconds.
1980h, 3225m, 3420e, 10p exkdb-
Ceres gracefully swings down out of the trees.
1980h, 3240m, 3420e, 10p exkdb-
1980h, 3240m, 3420e, 10p exkdb-unally ceres
enemy ceres
Commodore Ceres, of the Waters is not currently an ally.
1980h, 3240m, 3420e, 10p exkdb-
Ceres is already an enemy.
1980h, 3240m, 3420e, 10p exkdb-draw hex paralyse
You trace glyphs in the air, and they begin to glow ominously.
1980h, 3060m, 3420e, 10p xkdb-
You have recovered equilibrium.
1980h, 3060m, 3420e, 10p exkdb-draw hex paralyse
You trace glyphs in the air, and they begin to glow ominously.
1980h, 2880m, 3420e, 10p xkdb-
You have recovered equilibrium.
1980h, 2880m, 3420e, 10p exkdb-hexes
Your paralyse hex will last for another 713 seconds.
Your paralyse hex will last for another 715 seconds.
1980h, 2955m, 3420e, 10p exkdb-seize ceres
Your arms lock themselves about Ceres and you hoist her, legs kicking wildly,
up into the treetops.
1980h, 3225m, 3420e, 10p ekdb-
You have recovered balance on all limbs.
1980h, 3225m, 3420e, 10p exkdb-hexes
Your paralyse hex will last for another 705 seconds.
Your paralyse hex will last for another 707 seconds.
1980h, 3225m, 3420e, 10p exkdb-
Ceres gracefully swings down out of the trees.
1980h, 3240m, 3420e, 10p exkdb-
Paralyze hexes hitting you? What paralysis hexes?
Ceres2005-02-05 13:47:32
OMGZ!!1211oeeneneone!11
Yrael2005-02-05 14:41:08
QUOTE(Murphy @ Feb 5 2005, 10:52 PM)
That is not a fair statement tuek and you know it!
No other class anywhere gets that skill. Malkuth SHOULD resist it more.
How can a mugwump with 12 str lift a massive beast like murphy, wearing fullplate, it just isn't fair. it can pull you right out of the fight.
I want a mass vial. And i also don't want comments from obviously biased people like tuek (I have never heard tuek admit a class needs upgrading, or any of his skills are really really strong, all we hear is a one sided arguement from him)
No other class anywhere gets that skill. Malkuth SHOULD resist it more.
How can a mugwump with 12 str lift a massive beast like murphy, wearing fullplate, it just isn't fair. it can pull you right out of the fight.
I want a mass vial. And i also don't want comments from obviously biased people like tuek (I have never heard tuek admit a class needs upgrading, or any of his skills are really really strong, all we hear is a one sided arguement from him)
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Has too! He called himself an overartifacted, credit covered whore. And some other things. Its knocking around in someones sig.
Unknown2005-02-05 14:50:36
That'd be Guido.
Unknown2005-02-05 17:25:14
Heya.
And yeah, i'm pretty sure hexes don't auto-fire when you get brought into the trees. On my Nihilist I always had people teleport to me in mid-air, then drop down to where my demon and hexes were waiting. The hexes, however, never hit them. I assume that it only works if you're actually entering the room, not the different 'layers' of it.
And yeah, i'm pretty sure hexes don't auto-fire when you get brought into the trees. On my Nihilist I always had people teleport to me in mid-air, then drop down to where my demon and hexes were waiting. The hexes, however, never hit them. I assume that it only works if you're actually entering the room, not the different 'layers' of it.
Unknown2005-02-05 22:05:06
Not to mention I just proved it in that log, Guido.
Murphy2005-02-06 00:29:07
I beg to differ tuek.
In rockie when it revolted, Dumihru was seizing me into hexes. Maybe its bugged somehow bug Id get seized and hit with paralyse.
-mutter- now where are those logs.
PS Can't find them so you'll hafta take my word for it....perhaps you have to makes the hexes in the trees while they are out of the room, they walk in, you hoist then the tree hexes hit? I dunno,
In rockie when it revolted, Dumihru was seizing me into hexes. Maybe its bugged somehow bug Id get seized and hit with paralyse.
-mutter- now where are those logs.
PS Can't find them so you'll hafta take my word for it....perhaps you have to makes the hexes in the trees while they are out of the room, they walk in, you hoist then the tree hexes hit? I dunno,
Unknown2005-02-06 00:54:59
You probably got wisped into hexes.
