Unknown2011-07-21 19:32:47
It was just pointed out to me that FS+ ootagnk would put you at 3mo, so you would have to execute another form before you could Ootangk again.
Malarious2011-07-22 03:24:36
QUOTE (Tau y'Kaliath @ Jul 21 2011, 02:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Personally, I think only having a one-in-four shot at curing the crotamine in six seconds is actually pretty overpowered. I don't know if you could gust a target while they're grappled, but, if you can, I suppose that would be a reliable defense against it, similar to deathsong. Just trigger the Finalsting line to a gust warning or whatever. Anyways, Unless I'm fighting a monk or a bard I'm probably going to be hammering the ootangk form immediately after FS+Ootangk (if that report went through, hypothetically), and so it pretty much would be a consistent Ootangk and 75% which sounds a little overpowered. I think the idea that I fancy is using Shocree with it to hide the crotamine message. This would force systems to trigger the Finalsting message, and then using beast hypnoticgaze wouldn't seem like such a huge investment for such little gain (.5s-2s window to hide one message instead of .5s-2s for two messages 1s apart).
Even if you could Ootangk after that, you cant use speed mod, so they will writhe out before you can regrapple, you wont actually be hindering them the entire time from sipping anyway. Shocree hiding the tic line would not be bad, but autodiag would still win (although ootangk might work well in this instance).
QUOTE (Janalon @ Jul 21 2011, 03:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Mhm. Easy "fix," but did nothing to solve the problem.
He put it as solution 2, so they accepted.
Unknown2011-07-23 20:20:34
Waiting to see what happens on Report 643
Kayaldiyah2011-07-26 17:41:09
QUOTE (Enyalida @ Jul 20 2011, 11:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
... and toad is a group effort. ...
Kinda off topic, but just wanted to point this out. I know I'm not the best combatant, but I've been spending time in the arena lately with different groups, and I find the above statement to not be true. The Shadowdancer I was sparring had me choked, turned into a toad and then smashed me with his foot, by himself, in probably one minute or less. No group needed.
Unknown2011-07-26 17:43:05
You had me at 'choked.'
Kayaldiyah2011-07-26 23:16:32
Zilias2011-07-27 14:57:09
QUOTE
Kinda off topic, but just wanted to point this out. I know I'm not the best combatant, but I've been spending time in the arena lately with different groups, and I find the above statement to not be true. The Shadowdancer I was sparring had me choked, turned into a toad and then smashed me with his foot, by himself, in probably one minute or less. No group needed.
His name is Isael, he is a force to be reckoned with. Yes, he as well did the same thing to me. However, I think if you had time to apply Dissloyalty to him it would have been much harder.
That said, I agree that a well trained Shadow Dancer can single handedly toad and kill you. Isael did the same to me. It a little longer than that but he was very good at it.
