Faethan2005-02-07 06:05:30
Merloch is easily the most pro-Celest person in Serenwilde, at least of those that I've met.
Buho2005-02-07 06:08:08
I'd like to see the gods complemented and then have a nice little party and relax for a day....well back to coding.
Unknown2005-02-07 06:10:08
We've all ignorant beavers! We could never do that, though...
Thank you all for working your arses off. It's been fun so far!
Thank you all for working your arses off. It's been fun so far!
Merloch2005-02-07 06:12:37
When comparing to others, he may be viewed as Pro Celest, that however does not make him, 'Pro Celest'.
Pink compared to orange may look red, it doesn't make it red though.
Pink compared to orange may look red, it doesn't make it red though.
Daganev2005-02-07 06:14:01
I'll assume by that stament that 'pro Celest' means something along the lines of embezeling money from serenwilde to put into Celest's coffers, or some other abscure and crazy demarcation line.
Elryn2005-02-07 06:18:38
QUOTE(Thorgal @ Feb 7 2005, 03:42 PM)
Most of the high-ranking moondancers voted against the anti-magnagoran law, yet he still put it in place, great guildmaster...wonder when they realise becoming a Forest of the Light isn't gonna do much good, bet Merloch will order to have the Fae led to Celestia next, into the Light cause it's good RP!
Your character's "awesome" RP, Merloch, goes against all serenwilde ideals.
Your character's "awesome" RP, Merloch, goes against all serenwilde ideals.
44009
Um, Thorgal, what? I'm afraid 'most of the high-ranking Moondancers' doesn't include the Magnagoran players on this forum There was no vote.
Basically, I think you should stay away from trying to grasp Serenwilde ideals if you think Merloch is against them all.
Oh, and Buho... 11 people want cute manse artifacts!! Yay for your awesome fantastic wonderful amazing fabulous coding!!
Edited because I was silly.
Merloch2005-02-07 06:18:44
Merloch's views on Celest, 101.
He doesn't hate them.
He doesn't blame New Celest for the actions of Old Celest.
He struggles daily with the actions of Farella in sentencing thousands to die in the belief that every single one was responsible for the corruption/Taint.
He does not support the Light in that he believes the Wisdom of the Great Spirits is far superior.
He hates and will slay anyone bringing a fae to Raziela.
He works to ensure that Celest does not bring fae to Raziela.
He thinks a mutual relationship with New Celest is not necessarily a bad thing in and of itself, since Merloch hates the Taint, and New Celest wants to end the Taint/fix their mistake.
He thinks that trying to fix a mistake made is worth something.
He thinks that certain individuals of Celest are far from intelligent and deserve whatever they get. That said, other individuals far outweigh that.
He finds that the Light generally will listen to reason, the Taint will not.
He doesn't hate them.
He doesn't blame New Celest for the actions of Old Celest.
He struggles daily with the actions of Farella in sentencing thousands to die in the belief that every single one was responsible for the corruption/Taint.
He does not support the Light in that he believes the Wisdom of the Great Spirits is far superior.
He hates and will slay anyone bringing a fae to Raziela.
He works to ensure that Celest does not bring fae to Raziela.
He thinks a mutual relationship with New Celest is not necessarily a bad thing in and of itself, since Merloch hates the Taint, and New Celest wants to end the Taint/fix their mistake.
He thinks that trying to fix a mistake made is worth something.
He thinks that certain individuals of Celest are far from intelligent and deserve whatever they get. That said, other individuals far outweigh that.
He finds that the Light generally will listen to reason, the Taint will not.
Daganev2005-02-07 06:25:37
QUOTE(Merloch @ Feb 6 2005, 10:18 PM)
Merloch's views on Celest, 101.
He doesn't blame New Celest for the actions of Old Celest.
He struggles daily with the actions of Farella in sentencing thousands to die in the belief that every single one was responsible for the corruption/Taint.
He finds that the Light generally will listen to reason, the Taint will not.
He doesn't blame New Celest for the actions of Old Celest.
He struggles daily with the actions of Farella in sentencing thousands to die in the belief that every single one was responsible for the corruption/Taint.
He finds that the Light generally will listen to reason, the Taint will not.
44032
Those three views right there make you 'Pro Celest' and possibly even 'anti historical Serenwilde'
Unknown2005-02-07 06:33:38
QUOTE(Merloch @ Feb 7 2005, 04:21 PM)
I find the entire situation amusing, really.
Merloch doesn't think he has a high horse. (Whereas you'll find egotistical means to accept such an idea). Infact, he also doesn't believe himself infalliable. He even told the GA when he made the decision, that he apologized for trying to ask her to do something that he should do himself, and if the guild contests him for this, so be it. It's something he feels is right and if the guild disagrees, then the Spirits be with whomever holds the position next.
Merloch doesn't think he has a high horse. (Whereas you'll find egotistical means to accept such an idea). Infact, he also doesn't believe himself infalliable. He even told the GA when he made the decision, that he apologized for trying to ask her to do something that he should do himself, and if the guild contests him for this, so be it. It's something he feels is right and if the guild disagrees, then the Spirits be with whomever holds the position next.
43994
My post was made from an IC view. It seems, to Laneth, that you are testing your limitations. Merloch seems to be taking a more and more active leading role, as opposed to the seemingly passive guiding role.
As for banning the light also, that would make it much more acceptable. It just irks Laneth that his actions are so strictly controlled with, what seems to be a biased law.
Merloch2005-02-07 06:44:20
History is made every day.
The actions of five minutes ago, are still historical.
The actions of five minutes ago, are still historical.
Daganev2005-02-07 06:48:04
your point?
Faethan2005-02-07 06:58:01
QUOTE(daganev @ Feb 7 2005, 02:25 AM)
Those three views right there make you 'Pro Celest' and possibly even 'anti historical Serenwilde'
44036
I agree
Thorgal2005-02-07 07:27:31
Well, the player behind Merloch has always been a "goody" fanatic in various IRE games, it's the exact same every time, same behaviour, same ideals, same actions...single-handedly giving his cities the reputation of extreme hypocrisy up to this very day, I'm surprised he isn't a Celestine, why'd you join Serenwilde at all? To turn it into a Forest of Light, gain more influence, affect more characters? I'm curious.
Auseklis2005-02-07 09:00:45
I've added some realistic options to the poll.
Serenwilde is as balanced as Celest and Magnagora as far as we're concerned.
Serenwilde is as balanced as Celest and Magnagora as far as we're concerned.
Rhysus2005-02-07 09:17:17
Hahahahahahaha
Thorgal2005-02-07 10:08:50
Aye, Serenwilde having the only trade monopoly in the game is indeed very balanced, despite Roark telling us the situation is not supposed to exist, almost every player agreeing the monopoly should not exist, including serenwilders, Your words are truly unquestionable and objective.
Typhus2005-02-07 14:13:39
Hey, Daganev, look familiar?
-Lets get this straight. Any organzation is given plenty of RP room to hate or like any other organization in the game.
You entered this yesterday...
-Lets get this straight. Any organzation is given plenty of RP room to hate or like any other organization in the game.
You entered this yesterday...
Merloch2005-02-07 14:54:12
QUOTE(Thorgal @ Feb 7 2005, 03:27 AM)
Well, the player behind Merloch has always been a "goody" fanatic in various IRE games, it's the exact same every time, same behaviour, same ideals, same actions...single-handedly giving his cities the reputation of extreme hypocrisy up to this very day, I'm surprised he isn't a Celestine, why'd you join Serenwilde at all? To turn it into a Forest of Light, gain more influence, affect more characters? I'm curious.
44057
The 'player behind Merloch' is not a 'goody fanatic'
Characters that I've played have existed in the 'bad' 'good', and 'neutral' roles.
If you don't know all my characters, that's your own fault. Though, since none of them influence each other, they're also hardly relevant.
The ideals are 'not' the same, the behaviour is -not- the same (though someone did say that two of my characters have the same quietness about them)
There's no trying to turn Seren into a 'Forest of Light', either, Thorgal, despite what you may think you claim to see.
Further, the so called claim of 'single-handedly giving the various cities a reputation for hypocrisy' is largely, if not completely, stretched since no one person can do that, even if it were true. Secondly, Merloch's not made any decisions about Serenwilde beyond 'Don't attack that person' or 'Let's not influence that village' (Notably, that was Acknor and Angkrag in the early days)
His only true 'decisions' which are 'single-handed', was the most recent one in his guild.
My other characters also never made any decisions alone. You really need to stop trying to sling personal insults or make personal attacks.
Rauros2005-02-07 15:22:05
QUOTE
Guild Novice Score Member Score Vote Rating
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Moondancers 25 157 19
Serenguard 18 105 8
Hartstone 20 101 10
Nihilists 20 76 2
Aquamancers 21 76 8
Celestines 12 65 3
Paladins 1 60 3
Geomancers 8 55 7
Ur'Guard 12 49 4
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Moondancers 25 157 19
Serenguard 18 105 8
Hartstone 20 101 10
Nihilists 20 76 2
Aquamancers 21 76 8
Celestines 12 65 3
Paladins 1 60 3
Geomancers 8 55 7
Ur'Guard 12 49 4
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Question: where is that from exactly?
Auseklis2005-02-07 15:25:48
QUOTE(Thorgal @ Feb 7 2005, 11:08 AM)
Aye, Serenwilde having the only trade monopoly in the game is indeed very balanced, despite Roark telling us the situation is not supposed to exist, almost every player agreeing the monopoly should not exist, including serenwilders, Your words are truly unquestionable and objective.
44096
I was assuming you meant the guilds. I'll admit that alchemy has some problems at the moment. To be fair, it hasn't stopped Seren from repeatedly losing out to Magnagora whenever there's competition between the two.