Bugger this. I have found the Moondancers to be one of the most RP enriched arenas I've had the joy to play in, in several years. I left the last game site I belonged to because of the same type of poor gamesmanship and blatant use of OOC argument to destroy as I am starting to see here. I won't participate in it. Enjoy the high quality product you've been given and be thankful there is a company willing to provide it.

If I didn't know better I'd say many of you were right-wing nutters from Indiana named Scott.

That's because the game mechanics that govern systems of conflict favor the Magnagoran ideology across the board.

Lord Auseklis, the guilds in Lusternia are balanced better than in any other IRE game, but the alchemy situation is highly unfair and extremely frustrating, even serenwilders admit it causes imbalance and should be fixed, and I really cannot imagine it being hard to fix...

Just have Rowena sell refills, not vials like Bob, but actual refills, at similar prices as Seasone of achaea did, untill Glomdoring comes in place...

Each vial has 50 sips, 400 gold for a health/mana, 1000 for a regeneration, 600 for purgatives and salves. Bam, problem solved. Alchemy isn't a goal on its own, it's merely a necessary requirement to be able to do anything at all.

....I'm from Indiana....

As much of an advantage as it gives Serenwilde... I have to agree from an objective standpoint.

BTW sorry for my apperent outlandishness in previous threads yesterday... I wasn't exactly "all there".

I like that. It allows someone alchemy-banned to -survive- (although, in person refills at 150-180 per are -much- preferable).

I'd say make it slightly more expensive, because the alchemy trade just can't really make any money right now as is, but some way of doing it, yes. (But then, you'd have to do a similar thing for enchantments. Because even though both cities can do it, what happens if I'm enemied to both? *shrug*)

Enchantments isn't a necessity. Alchemy really is. I mean, with tainted regen, sparkleberry, and mercy/kingdom/etc enchantments up, I might be able to bash decently. Might. But outside of tainted grounds, I'm done.

As to that, it's comparing apples and oranges. Right, they're both fruit. And round. Well, damn. I think that dead horse is sufficiently beaten. Unlike Enchantments, Alchemy is a game necessity to do just about any form of efficient bashing.

Maybe it's just because I'm a complete newbie ( ) but I have no problems bashing without potions.

Even if it's possible to bash without alchemy, given you have the right guildskills or high/lowmagic skills to cure denizen-given afflictions, it's still impossible fighting without alchemy.

Well...meh. Try fighting a Hartstone's sap and an ur'guard's ectoplasm without enchantments, eh...

No one has a monopoly on enchantments, so that point of yours is, next to many others (though not all), void.

Ectoplasm wears off, Sap doesnt. Also ecto only affects balance based actions, so if you use mainly eq skills you wont be effected/

Which warriors can't do, but okay, take sap then. And Thorgal, it's not void. Because, see, if I get enemied to Magnagora for not actually doing anything wrong (I'm not saying this is a policy they should remedy, but it is often the case) then I only have Celest to go to for enchantments. During a war with Celest, say, you'd have a monopoly over enchantments. And if we had to fight both of you, we'd lose them completely. The point is that it's possible for us to lose enchantment access in the same way that it's possible for you to lose alchemy access (albeit harder.)

The chance of you losing enchantments is twice as low than the chance of me losing alchemy, and the chance of getting unenemied to one of the cities is twice as high than me getting unenemied to Serenwilde, if I'd ever get enemied... next to the fact it's easily possible to fight without enchantments, yet 100% IMpossible to fight without alchemy.

The odds are stacked immensely Shiri, enchantments is simply not comparable to alchemy.

It's not easily possible to fight a Hartstone without enchantments, I'll bet. And that's just one example, there might be more. And yes, the chances are lower, but it's still possible, isn't it?

Nope it isn't. My hands are tied behind my back while I have to let your people raid our villages without being able to put down repercussions or get revenge, let alone undo the damage they've done by recapturing the miners.

Whatever happens, whichever position we get into, you got us by the nuts without having done any effort for it, which is a situation that simply has to stop.

Wrong "it's still possible," the error probably being on my part.

I meant it's still possible to get enemied from both cities. Not that it's possible to fight without alchemy, because I know full well it isn't.

I'm glad we finally agree on this thread as well.

How often would a Seren's life depend on a cleanse enchantment to get rid of Sap or Ecto? How often does a Magnagoran's life depend on melancholic, choleric, sanguine, etc?

I'd like to see the effects of some sort of event where the Alembic broke just to see how everyone would deal with the situation. How effective would the Bob arguement be for those that don't have the necessity to use such a retarded source?

Edit: Gods damn you two post too fast.