Legit or not?

by Staer

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Staer2005-02-10 18:55:25
So Thorgal lusts me into a statue and starts attack. All well and good. However the room that he lusted me into was one room away from Magnagora, and there were 2 exits. The one going into the city was unblocked, the one leading to the highway was icewalled.

So far, all well and good. But Thorgal gives me fear, and I'm sure you can guess which exit I ended up going in. Is that legit? He didn't beckon, tackle, summon, or directly force me into the city, but he did force me to move in a situation where the only possible way to go was into the city. It seems kind of borderline, what do you think?
Shiri2005-02-10 18:57:17
Eh, I don't see "borderline" there, since it's still a forced movement and it's the only choice. I would say it was illegal even if the other room wasn't icewalled, actually, since it's more that they don't have a choice about whether to enter the territory or not.
Thorgal2005-02-10 19:31:37
Well he could just melt the icewall and move out, you only ran into the guards after you already were in the room 30 seconds. Ignite enchantment is fixed now. And if you don't want to die, don't raid tongue.gif, not like I was the agressor.
Daganev2005-02-10 20:41:58
besides, fear into guard will also you fear you out of it.
Narsrim2005-02-10 20:56:06
QUOTE(Staer @ Feb 10 2005, 02:55 PM)
So Thorgal lusts me into a statue and starts attack.  All well and good.  However the room that he lusted me into was one room away from Magnagora, and there were 2 exits.  The one going into the city was unblocked, the one leading to the highway was icewalled.

So far, all well and good.  But Thorgal gives me fear, and I'm sure you can guess which exit I ended up going in.  Is that legit?  He didn't beckon, tackle, summon, or directly force me into the city, but he did force me to move in a situation where the only possible way to go was into the city.  It seems kind of borderline, what do you think?
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Did he give you fear with like an enchantment or something? If he -specifically- casted fear on you then it is obvious that his intent was to have you flee into guards.
Shiri2005-02-10 21:12:33
Thorgal, it's true that it's POSSIBLE to escape, but I think the point of these rules is that you're not meant to do it just because "they should be better than that", eh. And I think Thorgal would have used cosmic fear, which hits the room.
Thorgal2005-02-10 21:16:13
No heh, I think any divine can restate that I did not use any methods of fear or force to bring my victims into the hands of our charming Marshals. I'll icewall both exits next time if a topic shows up everytime I pull that trick...
Narsrim2005-02-10 21:19:56
QUOTE(Thorgal @ Feb 10 2005, 05:16 PM)
No heh, I think any divine can restate that I did not use any methods of fear or force to bring my victims into the hands of our charming Marshals. I'll icewall both exits next time if a topic shows up everytime I pull that trick...
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So how did you fear?
Nementh2005-02-10 21:43:26
QUOTE(Thorgal @ Feb 10 2005, 09:16 PM)
No heh, I think any divine can restate that I did not use any methods of fear or force to bring my victims into the hands of our charming Marshals. I'll icewall both exits next time if a topic shows up everytime I pull that trick...
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The line indicates you 'pull that trick' knowing the end result. I'd say next person you do that to should issue you, as you are dealing in a very shady rule interpertation.

Thorgal2005-02-10 23:41:23
QUOTE(Narsrim @ Feb 10 2005, 11:19 PM)
So how did you fear?
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I didn't...
Staer2005-02-11 00:46:20
QUOTE
You wildly jab a dark steel broadsword at a malevolent demon. You plunge your
broadsword into him, driving it deep.
The final blow proves too much for a malevolent demon, who expires, pitifully.
You have slain a malevolent demon.
You suddenly scoop up the corpse of a malevolent demon.
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Your left arm is off balance.
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You have recovered balance on your right arm.
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Thorgal flings a tarot to the ground. Upon contact, it explodes in a great
flash of technicolor light and Thorgal is gone.
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Encircled by looming peaks.
The corrosiveness of the taint sickens the land. The bright sun shines down,
blanketing you with its life-giving warmth.
You see exits leading north and south.
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You have recovered balance on your left arm.
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A large, rectangular gateway opens up near you, and you feel yourself
irresistibly drawn inside.
Great Southern Highway approaching Magnagora. (road).
The corrosiveness of the taint sickens the land. A smattering of clouds fills
the sky, lacing it with spiderwebs of grey. A canvas backpack lies face-down
here. A statue of Ravin stands here, memorializing his noble spirit. An icewall
is here, blocking passage to the southwest. Thorgal is here, shrouded. He
wields a dark blade of iniquity in his right hand.
You see exits leading north and southwest.
A statue of Ravin unleashes a bolt of energy that slams into you.
A statue of Ravin unleashes a bolt of energy that slams into you.
A statue of Ravin unleashes a bolt of energy that slams into you.
A statue of Ravin unleashes a bolt of energy that slams into you.
A prickly stinging overcomes your body, fading away into numbness.
A statue of Ravin unleashes a bolt of energy that slams into you.
A statue of Ravin unleashes a bolt of energy that slams into you.
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You are too impatient to focus on anything.

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You wail like an old woman.
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That pipe isn't lit.
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"The voices! The voices! Get them out of my head!!" you moan, holding your head
in pain.
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An ugly black vulture circles above, looking for carrion.

You feel incredibly tired, and fall asleep immediately.
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Spiders are erupting from your mouth and nose!

You stumble as your right leg shrivels into a useless appendage.

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You remove 1 pennyroyal, bringing the total in the Rift to ###.

You eat a bunch of pennyroyal.
Sanity returns to you and you are no longer demented.
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You store 1 pennyroyal, bringing the total to ###.
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You take out some salve and quickly rub it on your legs.
The salve has no discernable effect.

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You fall to your knees in worship.
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You blink for a moment, then instantly, all about you is darkness.
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Great Southern Highway approaching Magnagora. (road).
The corrosiveness of the taint sickens the land. A smattering of clouds fills
the sky, lacing it with spiderwebs of grey. A canvas backpack lies face-down
here. A statue of Ravin stands here, memorializing his noble spirit. An icewall
is here, blocking passage to the southwest. Thorgal is here, shrouded. He
wields a dark blade of iniquity in his right hand.
You see exits leading north and southwest.
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Thorgal flings a tarot card at you, and a jester appears with a slack jawed
expression. With a mad jingling of his bells, the fool throws a custard pie in
your face.
Thorgal flings a tarot card at you which turns an ominous, sickly red before
striking you in the head.
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You are too tangled up to do that.
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You rush about in a state of utter panic.
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You may eat another herb.
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You are too tangled up to do that.
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You twitch spasmodically.
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There is nothing to fear but fear itself.
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You wouldn't want to drink a salve. It would not be tasty at all.
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You wail like an old woman.
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You see no pennyroyal in your inventory.
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You notice that your sweat glands have begun to rapidly secrete a foul, oily
substance.
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You begin to struggle free of your entanglement.
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You look about yourself nervously.
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That pipe isn't lit.
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You wouldn't want to drink a salve. It would not be tasty at all.
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You are already an insomniac.
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You gasp and stumble as part of your precious energy reserves are sapped from
you.
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You have recovered balance on all limbs.
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You are too tangled up to do that.
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You twist and turn as you attempt to escape from your entanglement.
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"The voices! The voices! Get them out of my head!!" you moan, holding your head
in pain.
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You feel incredibly tired, and fall asleep immediately.
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You carefully light your treasured pipe until it is smoking nicely.
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You have writhed free of your entanglement by ropes.
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You blink for a moment, then instantly, all about you is darkness.
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With his deadly tail, Thorgal strikes out at you and stings you.
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You carefully light your treasured pipe until it is smoking nicely.
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You drop to one knee, demonstrating your humility and respect.
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You stand up and stretch your arms out wide.
You take a long drag off your pipe.
You are patient once again.
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Unreasoning rage turns the world blood-red.
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Frustratingly, your body won't respond to your call to action.
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You are paralysed and cannot do that.
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Ooh look! A lovely lake. Perhaps you'll dive in!
You leap up and attempt a graceful swan dive...right into the solid ground.
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With his deadly tail, Thorgal strikes out at you and stings you.
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A sense of extreme nausea washes over you.
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You must first raise yourself from the floor and stand up.
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You must first raise yourself from the floor and stand up.
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You pick your nose absently.
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You are paralysed and unable to do that.
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None may stand in your way! You are invincible!
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Great Southern Highway approaching Magnagora. (road).
The corrosiveness of the taint sickens the land. A smattering of clouds fills
the sky, lacing it with spiderwebs of grey. A canvas backpack lies face-down
here. A statue of Ravin stands here, memorializing his noble spirit. An icewall
is here, blocking passage to the southwest. Thorgal is here, shrouded. He
wields a dark blade of iniquity in his right hand.
You see exits leading north and southwest.
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You begin focusing your mind on your motor skills.
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With his deadly tail, Thorgal strikes out at you and stings you.
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The idea of eating or drinking is repulsive to you.
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You take a long drag off your pipe.
Your mind relaxes and you feel as if you could sleep.
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You take a long drag off your pipe.
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You clench your fists, grit your teeth, and banish all possibility of sleep.
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You take a drink from a ruby vial.
The potion heals and soothes you.
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A sense of extreme nausea washes over you.
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You take out some salve and quickly rub it on your skin.
No longer will the sunlight harm you.
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With his deadly tail, Thorgal strikes out at you and stings you.
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You gasp as your fine-tuned reflexes disappear into a haze of confusion.
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Your muscles unlock; you are no longer paralysed.
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You realize that your heroic actions can no longer continue unnoticed, and you
take it upon yourself to rectify the situation.
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You must first raise yourself from the floor and stand up.
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You must first raise yourself from the floor and stand up.
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You stand up and stretch your arms out wide.
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You twitch spasmodically.
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You love Thorgal far too much to even THINK of hurting him.
You cannot see that being here.
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You love Thorgal far too much to even THINK of hurting him.
You detect nothing here by that name.
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You may apply another salve to yourself.
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With his deadly tail, Thorgal strikes out at you and stings you.
The venom forces you to gag slightly, but your superior constitution shrugs off
the nausea.
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You gasp as your fine-tuned reflexes disappear into a haze of confusion.
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Thorgal takes a drink from a ruby vial.
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You remove 1 horehound, bringing the total in the Rift to ###.
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You eat a horehound blossom.
Prudence rules your psyche once again.
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A prickly stinging overcomes your body, fading away into numbness.
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You focus your mind on your motor skills but find you are already mobile.
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You may eat another herb.
You may drink another health, mana, or bromide potion.
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You take a drink from a sapphire vial.
Your mind feels stronger and more alert.
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You remove 1 galingale, bringing the total in the Rift to ###.
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You eat a stem of galingale.
You shake your head, wondering what you ever saw in Thorgal.
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You fondle yourself absently.
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Spiders are erupting from your mouth and nose!
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With his deadly tail, Thorgal strikes out at you and stings you.
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You sit yourself down.
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A prickly stinging overcomes your body, fading away into numbness.
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You waggle your eyebrows comically.
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You must first raise yourself from the floor and stand up.
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You must first raise yourself from the floor and stand up.
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You stand up and stretch your arms out wide.
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You wail like an old woman.
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You rush about in a state of utter panic.
At the Southern Magnagora Gates. (road).
The bright sun shines down, blanketing you with its life-giving warmth. There
are 13 plague lords here. A sigil in the shape of a small, rectangular monolith
is on the ground. A statue of a plague lord stands here, memorializing his
noble spirit.
You see exits leading north, southeast, south, and southwest.
A statue of a plague lord unleashes a bolt of energy that slams into you.
A statue of a plague lord unleashes a bolt of energy that slams into you.
You gasp as your fine-tuned reflexes disappear into a haze of confusion.
A statue of a plague lord unleashes a bolt of energy that slams into you.
A statue of a plague lord unleashes a bolt of energy that slams into you.
A statue of a plague lord unleashes a bolt of energy that slams into you.
A statue of a plague lord unleashes a bolt of energy that slams into you.
A plague lord says, "Make no mistake, Staer. If you violate our city, I will
kill you."
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You blink.
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You are too impatient to focus on anything.
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You wouldn't want to drink a salve. It would not be tasty at all.
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You take a long drag off your pipe.
Your insomnia has been cured by the wormwood.
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You clench your fists, grit your teeth, and banish all possibility of sleep.
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You stumble as your left leg shrivels into a useless appendage.
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Calling forth to the bowels of the earth, a plague lord leans over towards the
ground and draws out a sickeningly black blade. Quickly he shoves it into your
chest where it melts away.
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You may eat another herb.
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You remove 1 galingale, bringing the total in the Rift to ###.
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You eat a stem of galingale.
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You are paralysed and cannot do that.
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Your limbs grow heavy and you groan feebly.
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Calling forth to the bowels of the earth, a plague lord leans over towards the
ground and draws out a sickeningly black blade. Quickly he shoves it into your
chest where it melts away.
A plague lord raises his fist and chants in a guttural tongue as lashes of
black fire stream across your body and you cry out in pain.
Calling forth to the bowels of the earth, a plague lord leans over towards the
ground and draws out a sickeningly black blade. Quickly he shoves it into your
chest where it melts away.


Tells, channels, echos, and some prompts removed. Notice when the first fear message was. I know I didn't have fear before being lusted.

Judge for yourself.
Narsrim2005-02-11 00:48:42
From what I can tell, the whole point of the icewall on one side but not the other was so you would flee into the city.
Shamarah2005-02-11 00:54:02
Looks to me like the moon tarot did it.
Unknown2005-02-11 01:00:38
And the moon tarot was due to enigma, wasn't specifically done on purpose.


Thorgal flings a tarot card at you, and a jester appears with a slack jawed
expression. With a mad jingling of his bells, the fool throws a custard pie in
your face.
Thorgal flings a tarot card at you which turns an ominous, sickly red before
striking you in the head.
Terenas2005-02-11 01:08:49
Either the Moon Tarot or one of the statue's rune was a fear rune.
Narsrim2005-02-11 01:38:16
QUOTE(SirVLCIV @ Feb 10 2005, 09:00 PM)
And the moon tarot was due to enigma, wasn't specifically done on purpose.
Thorgal flings a tarot card at you, and a jester appears with a slack jawed
expression. With a mad jingling of his bells, the fool throws a custard pie in
your face.
Thorgal flings a tarot card at you which turns an ominous, sickly red before
striking you in the head.

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I really don't think that's the point. There were two exits. One was sealed that went away. The Magnagora one was left open. That's just asking for trouble... and doesn't hallucinations make you run away in fear sometimes?
Shiri2005-02-11 01:39:25
I don't think hallucinations has ever done anything but forcedive and stun, to me. I left it on for quite a while to get hold of the affliction messages too.
Drago2005-02-11 02:54:17
Moon tarot is a random mental affliction. It could have been shyness, agoraphobia or just fear.
Unknown2005-02-11 04:10:44
Hypochondria causes fear, I think, and I know that many statues give it.
Thorgal2005-02-11 11:08:41
Moon tarot gives one out of 4 afflictions: stupidity, hypersomnia, confusion or amnesia. And Staer, seriously, don't raid our villages, then complain about getting killed, if you got fear, then it is from the hallucinations given by the statue.