Knockdown

by Narsrim

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Narsrim2005-02-10 20:20:29
I would like to formally state how unfair and balanced it is that Bonecrushers with exceptional speed can permanently stack off-balance (I mean seriously, how in the hell do you “knockdown” someone who is –already- prone?) with certain races and specifically, ectoplasm. Let’s all complain about it.
Thorgal2005-02-10 20:24:35
Log log log log!
Shamarah2005-02-10 20:28:31
It's "formally". "Formerly" means previously.

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Narsrim2005-02-10 20:35:55
QUOTE(Shamarah @ Feb 10 2005, 04:28 PM)
It's "formally".  "Formerly" means previously.

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I have like 10 posts to write on unbalance junk. No time for that.
Terenas2005-02-10 22:03:19
QUOTE(Thorgal @ Feb 10 2005, 08:24 PM)
Log log log log!
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Here you go. I'm surprised to see how Murphy complained so much about everyone else but his own class though. tongue.gif

Is this ability a little bit overpowered?
Narsrim2005-02-10 22:50:54
QUOTE(Aajen @ Feb 10 2005, 06:40 PM)


Wow, did you write that just so when people point out overbalanced stuff with your class then you can point to that thread? Why didn't you bother posting that regarding spores?
Aajen2005-02-10 22:55:38
I've said it before, and I might as well say it again, since you seem to think everyone thinks completely unobjectively like yourself. I don't think Moondancers are overpowered. And I don't think spores are overpowered.
Narsrim2005-02-10 23:09:44
QUOTE(Aajen @ Feb 10 2005, 06:55 PM)
I've said it before, and I might as well say it again, since you seem to think everyone thinks completely unobjectively like yourself. I don't think Moondancers are overpowered. And I don't think spores are overpowered.
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Well, the bitching of the masses is going to get spores changed. Thus, I feel I should point out imbalances that I see because other people did just that, complained and whined, and got their way.
Daganev2005-02-10 23:11:57
Then stick your bitching in the envoy report. Thats where the changes god made.
Thorgal2005-02-10 23:12:10
Nah, Roark said it was never supposed to work through monolith, and you can hardly say the bitching speeded it up, cause we're complaining about spores from the beginning of the realms.
Olan2005-02-10 23:14:21
QUOTE(Narsrim @ Feb 10 2005, 04:09 PM)
Well, the bitching of the masses is going to get spores changed. Thus, I feel I should point out imbalances that I see because other people did just that, complained and whined, and got their way.
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NO. People pointing out the lack of limitations is allowing the Admin to change OVERSIGHTS in the skill, things that SHOULDN'T BE HAPPENING and/or WEREN'T CONSIDERED. It isn't getting changed because of whining, it is getting changed because it actually isn't working as envisioned. No skills excepting flow and demense related teleportation are supposed to go through monos. So sayeth Roark. Thus, Spores were effectively bugged. Now, if you want to complain about bug fixes that just happen to negatively impact you, I suggest going to the forum marked 'Idiots!' as that is the proper place for such ranting.
Narsrim2005-02-10 23:27:14
QUOTE(Olan @ Feb 10 2005, 07:14 PM)
NO. People pointing out the lack of limitations is allowing the Admin to change OVERSIGHTS in the skill, things that SHOULDN'T BE HAPPENING and/or WEREN'T CONSIDERED. It isn't getting changed because of whining, it is getting changed because it actually isn't working as envisioned. No skills excepting flow and demense related teleportation are supposed to go through monos. So sayeth Roark. Thus, Spores were effectively bugged. Now, if you want to complain about bug fixes that just happen to negatively impact you, I suggest going to the forum marked 'Idiots!' as that is the proper place for such ranting.
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Ironically, the spores argument has been going on for almost a rl month now. This entire time, nothing was said about spores until recently. I imagine if all the posting and flaming over spores never happened then they wouldn't be getting changed. And furthermore, this has NOTHING to do with knockdown being able to permanently knock someone off balance. Keep your comments on topic.
Thorgal2005-02-10 23:29:32
Just like the tail sting balance stacking wouldn't have been fixed this fast without posting it on the forums, but it still needed to be fixed, just as spores, maybe it wouldn't have been fixed as fast, but that changes nothing about the fact that it was a BUG, and thus in need of FIXING.
Olan2005-02-10 23:36:08
QUOTE(Narsrim @ Feb 10 2005, 04:27 PM)
Ironically, the spores argument has been going on for almost a rl month now. This entire time, nothing was said about spores until recently. I imagine if all the posting and flaming over spores never happened then they wouldn't be getting changed. And furthermore, this has NOTHING to do with knockdown being able to permanently knock someone off balance. Keep your comments on topic.
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You are priceless. You bring up how bitching 'got spores changed' yourself, but when someone tries to point out the flaws in your claim, you tell us to stay on topic? Amazing.
Narsrim2005-02-11 00:18:20
QUOTE(Thorgal @ Feb 10 2005, 07:29 PM)
Just like the tail sting balance stacking wouldn't have been fixed this fast without posting it on the forums, but it still needed to be fixed, just as spores, maybe it wouldn't have been fixed as fast, but that changes nothing about the fact that it was a BUG, and thus in need of FIXING.
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And that's why I created this thread to point out that being able to get knocked off balance permanently is a bug and needs fixed.
Silvanus2005-02-11 00:20:00
I was able to knock people off balance/eq forever, as a Nihilist, assuming they didn't cure. OMGZ!

Narsrim2005-02-11 00:22:30
QUOTE(Silvanus @ Feb 10 2005, 08:20 PM)
I was able to knock people off balance/eq forever, as a Nihilist, assuming they didn't cure. OMGZ!
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This has nothing to do with curing. Geb is an excellent curer. Read his log...
Silvanus2005-02-11 00:25:51
I know, but I was just saying, every class has the possiblity to knock people off balance or keep someone from doing something, just some have it a lot easier then others.

Though I do agree, Knockdown is teh ov3rp0w3rdz (Translation from stupidity to American (Yes, American is its own language): overpowered).
Terenas2005-02-11 00:33:34
I don't think knockdown is overpowered, it's a good ability and should be kept the way it is. But it should be fixed so they can't keep knocking you down if you're already proned, that's just plain stupid.